Recommend setting public Xith3D page

Before everyone mailbomb mr Yazel about permissions for Xith3D, I recommend setting an open info page and open CVS downloads for the project. That way, one can link to the project for outsiders too.

I am new to the java.net project restrictions, so it was a suprise to me to find that people needed permission to read the archive.

I have created a snapshot of everything in the file sharing section of the project which should give you something to read if you are interested.

http://xith3d.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList

still no luck ???
Can’t follow your link as i dont have sufficient permissions

Martin

[quote]I have created a snapshot of everything in the file sharing section of the project which should give you something to read if you are interested.
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Do you think that Sun can be fooled so easily ? :wink: They have protected you from yourself and us from ourselves a lot better - we also need permissions to view file sharing section.

I think that there is some kind of misunderstanding as far as concepts are concerned. IMHO, we are looking at it as a bit more closed sourceforge, while Sun is looking at it as a very open JCP/JSR. From JCP point of view, all these restrictions make sense - in fact, it is trivially easy to add new people to project (compared to hassle which had to be done with expert group/reviews/etc at JCP).

Hey, this java.net stuff is really, really complicated, isn’t it?

Okay I guess I’m just a moron. Where do you even find the project on the site?

Searching for Xith3D returns: nothing
Looking in each of the games-XXX categories yields: nothing
Going to the link above: Need more permissions, contact project admin, and then NO way to do so

I hate this .net site.

I completely agree with ZParticle. I can’t find a damn thing. Grumble, grumble, grumble.

Paul

I’ve spent the last week building a .net site myself, and I’m starting to hate even the words .net. Or the word and punctuation mark .net . Who cares.

Seems like everyone is getting: "Your account does not have the “Project Document - View” permission needed for you to access the page you requested in the xith3d project "

The only good thing is that I’m not the only one ;D

I have a feeling someone forgot a checkbox somewhere when setting up the project :slight_smile:

I have added all of you to observer status. Sorry for the problems!

I do have the project option “make visible to public” checked… but it seems to make no difference.

I noticed the project heirarchy is :
Projects>games>games-inbox>xith3d

I was expecting it to go in one of these:
games-core Java Games Core Technologies
games-demos Java Game Demos and Tutorials
games-forge Java-Based Games, Works in Progress and Other Content
games-middleware Java Game Engines and Libraries
games-research Advanced Research in Java Game Technology
games-tools Tools for Java Game Development

Specifically games-middleware.

Maybe that is why we can’t see it???
I’m pretty sure that is it, as the parent games-inbox project is not viewable in the same way.

Thanks for trying.

Your account does not have the “Project Page - View” permission needed for you to access the page you requested in the xith3d project (view your permissions). Either ask the project administrator for more permission, or log in using a different account.

It worked for me. Maybe Dave missed your ID zparticle. Are you zparticle on java.net as well?

Arrrgggg. I will see if I an upload the snapshot somewhere until we can get this worked out.

Same problem as zparticle…

oops I did miss zparticle!

Sorry about that! All set now.

I was able to get it ok. I can’t wait to get some time to really dive into the code and see what it’s doing, and more so what I can do with it. I have two quick questions though:

  1. What’s the license? I didn’t see any kind of license or copyright info in there.

  2. I noticed both JoGL and LWJGL directories in your third-party dir. Can it really use both? Which is it using by default, and how do I change it?

Paul

Ok, one more question. Yeah right.

What’s the deal with xith_utilities.jar? I noticed there’s no source code for it. Do you plan to release that package separately? If not, could we at least get the javadocs for it?

Paul

I need to go through and put the license in every source file. The license is BSD through, so no worries there. The xith_utilities is from the magicosm project and I didnt want the source in two places. I will either gen the java doc or include source in a reference jar.

I am in the middle of porting sun’s geometry package, adding support for indexed geometry and adding two more loaders… so I need to finish that before I can commit again.

I did get shared groups and links working last night though :slight_smile:

Question about people requesting developer status. I am a tad bit worried that it might be premature for that. i am still writing massive amounts of code and need the ability to reorganize stuff if I need to. If other developers are in their, unless they coordinate with me and work on something on the fringe we will have a mess.

For example someone could write the LWJGL port pretty easily without it causing any problems since they would only need to copy the JOGL code (about 10 files) and change them (mostly) slightly.