Ouya: a $99 Android game console

Hi

Maybe there will be a nice opportunity for Java gaming:

Ouya is a low cost (99 USD) hackable game console supporting Android. We could install Java SE For Embedded on it :wink: Maybe Google Play will be available on this machine.

This is very interesting

fingers crossed

A primary problem is that a console manufacturer needs exclusive first party content.

Which is why apple wouldnt make a game console per se.

I remember I posted almost same topic about cheap android gadget for gaming before. Still I’m questioning the quality.

99 is a little high for an modern ARM or Atom device without a keypad or screen. Maybe they are using some high end stuff like lots of memory or the latest ARM or Atom.

The console they should make:

I am thinking that the price point for a successful Android game console will be more likely to be around 49-79 for the next year or two. 49 without controllers and 79 with 2 controllers. It should allow Android and IOs devices as lame controllers as well.

I am planning on making my Raspberry Pi into that console when I get it. It cost 35 dollars and the extra housing will cost some money.

By 2016 that price should fall 4.99 to 7.99 as the hardware cost comes down. Cheap enough to give away and cover with advertising cost.

It’s 2012 and there are still operators trying to scam venture capital money with a vaporware console concept? Yeesh. Compared to the actual hard parts like distribution networks and partnerships with developers, the technology behind a console’s hardware is almost as interesting to an investor as the color of the box it comes in.

The article didn’t say much about the hardware, it mostly discussed the pedigree of the founder and mentioned that the project was funded already.

buy a mk802, mele or ovalelephant. connect your controller to the usb port. done for way less than 99$ - lowest I’ve seen is around $40 (CX-01)

I would like to get a FLOW G1.55 to replace my current smartphone and perform some experiments with IcedRobot and/or Replicant.

Hmm I saw there’s Shadow Gun game listed. Pretty powerful then.

I don’t think anyone has mentioned how this console will be funded.

I heard about the Kickstarter this morning and since I saw it the raised funds went up by about $700,000. Looks like the won’t have any problems getting the money.

My biggest concern is OpenJDK support. I won’t use Android DVM.

Well since the thing’s supposed to be hackable, I imagine you could install a more vanilla linux on it and run OpenJDK on that. Nothing you couldn’t do with an existing Tegra board, which are a little more pricey but have the advantage of being something you can actually buy.

I wonder if Ouya’s users will only be able to install games from Google Play. If so, I won’t be able to use OpenJDK to deploy games for end users except hackers. IcedRobot allows to use OpenJDK inside Android, that’s why it is interesting for me.

And why won’t you use android DVM? Does it kill dolphins?

Ooookay, the bait is in the water now…

Not that giving the hype a miss is such a bad thing, but clearly you haven’t been reading it. It screams FREE! FREE! FREE! from the rafters every other line about how hackable and open and unlocked and ponies and rainbows it is.

It’s not a bait, I assume it is some kind of political reason, but I’m curious to know why, since I’ve never heard of Dalvik VM being involved in any kind of political quarrel.

I put my game console for Android on IndieGoGo 2 times over a year ago and I get a big fat zero.

Ouya does it and have less info and get over 1 million dollars.

OpenJDK For Embedded and even JavaSE For Embedded are noticeably faster than Android DVM. Direct NIO buffers are really bugged in Android 4.0, its support is not as mature as its equivalent in OpenJDK. I don’t see why I should rely on a completely different virtual machine, even the method calls are slower with Android DVM. I love the GPL. Google has succeeded in making something great with Android but it has destroyed the main advantage of Java, ā€œwrite once, run everywhereā€, its virtual machine increases fragmentation and that’s Oracle’s fault too (if it was less greedy, Android would rely on JavaSE or OpenJDK from its very beginning). I just want to use the real Java, the same Java everywhere, neither Microsoft JVM nor Google DVM. You can disagree with me but don’t try to make a fool of me please. I don’t try to make a fool of you when I disagree with you.

Yes I love the GPL for political reasons and I want to stay as far as possible from Google, Microsoft, Adobe and Apple. I don’t like software patents, these corporations should just disappear and some Greek activists already burned one Microsoft building, it is a nice start lol.

Computer science is mostly not apolitical, there are only a very few computer engineers who are political activists.

Maybe we are bad in marketing, big names help.