NEED YOUR INPUT - NEW JGO FORUMS

Aside from finally having freaking e-mail capabilities, I really want to collapse these forums to make the lists more manageable. Let me know if you have any suggestions to make the new forums better. I will wait a few days before starting the migration to give folks a chance to reply here.

Cheers

-Chris

I’m sorry - what seems to be the problem, besides the technical issues, that should be fixable?
Why are we even talking about a new forum ???

There are MANY issues that make upgrading/migrating this forum VERY difficult (too many and too painful to discuss here :slight_smile: ) The best way is to migrate over to a new forum system. This new server is located in a cage that we have complete control over and yada yada yada.

If there was an option for “Barring information loss, whatever is easiest for you guys” I’d vote for it. Forum software is all much of a muchness isn’t it, at least for the user?

fwiw, I’d move this DB to a new SMF installation at the new location. Trying to migrate data to a new forum solution seems like an invitation to trouble. Having tried both phpbb and smf, I can definitely vouch for smf.

Porting is indeed quite risky.

Better put the current forum in some archive.

well whatever is chosen in the end, I just hope there isn’t a long JGO downtime like that with the previous upgrade.

there is also a java based forum around http://www.jforum.net/
I don’t like the default theme - but it is very fast ;D

Start new forums, keep “old” jgo in searchable archive
Use of SMF phpbb vbulletin jforum (I kinda liked jforum at the time and it has seem to have been moving forward)

Is ok with me

new server located in a cage that we have complete control over and yada yada yada.

Is a must.

Resets are scary. Resets are good.

Hang on, last time we had a forum migration and the verdict was “new forum, keep old as archive”, didn’t the archive mysteriously vanish after a year? And wasn’t the whole purpose of the last migration an attempt to stop it being needed again in the future? How come there’s lots of other forums on the internet which go on for ages without these problems, yet JGO seems to get them every couple of years? ???

Yes, the original one DID vanish after a year because the server to run both forums was , well, problematic. Now, due to the way SMF works, migrating these forums to a new server and collapsing individual forums together is an extremely manual process and not without it’s significant issues. The goal is to get JGO to a solid, proper infrastructure, which will last in perpetuity where we have complete control over the environment. Nothing is decided yet, which is why I am asking the community :slight_smile:

Yes, but wasn’t that what you said last time when we moved to SMF? Why is this big switch over going to be any different and what’s to stop us going through the whole rigmarole again in a couple of years time?

To ensure it doesn’t vanish, we just need some tool to grab the generated HTML, CSS and javascript from all pages on this forum.

Or have a DB-dump of the database publicly available (minus the user-data, like emailaddresses)

Nooooo, don’t delete my posts! I’m finally almost a JGO Ninja! :stuck_out_tongue:

I voted to migrate posts, if possible, and not because of post count, but because one of the best things about JGO is the vast number of solutions already posted. If we lose all that, a massive amount of information will be gone. If the archive is still searchable, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much, but I definitely don’t think it would be good to lose everything we have.

Ok, ok, ok…I know what has to happen here. So, to answer OT’s question, the server that JGO currently sits on is, to put it lightly, crap. I need to get the site to my new server. In doind so, it seemed like a good time to do house cleaning. So, here’s what I think i will do:

  1. Stay with SMF, just a new version
  2. Keep all of the posts, but archive the ones that are 1 year out. the will still be available to read and search and will not disappear, but they will not be open to be resurrected by a stray comment.
  3. I will collapse the forum structure to eliminate unnecessary, unloved forums and make the site easier to navigate.

Fair?

-Chris

Sounds like a plan. Someone mentioned the registration-CAPTCHA was broken, does this mean it’ll get fixed with the SMF upgrade?

  1. E-mail
  2. CAPTCHA
  3. Server side adds
  4. Regular patching and updates
  5. More complete backups and SCHEDULED downtimes for maintenance

These fixes and willing to have any other suggestions.

-Chris

Sounds excellent.

[quote]Nooooo, don’t delete my posts! I’m finally almost a JGO Ninja!
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Me too, I want to keep my post count! I was just about to become Ninjia as well :stuck_out_tongue: