Linux - Is there any Linux java developers ?

Hello,

I have plans to use Linux with my Java hobby,
i have plan to make small Java games, mainly boardgames, my games will be only in my homie country, i dont want to be at global state, atleast yet.

What about Linux it has good Java support, and good drawing programs, like in windows too, inkscape, gimp and blender, + few others too.

Im wondering what antivirus to use, or do i ever need one, i currently have clamtk and f-prot, but do i need better.

Do you have Linux developers here at forum, what programs they use and recommend, LWJGL is too with Linux.

just take a decent linux distro of your choice (really, just anything you want). OpenJDK is an option, but I would stick with an oracle version. Also I would ditch all that java alteratives nonsense (stay away from GCJ) and install the JDK yourself - just unpack a suitable JDK in a dedicated development folder.

Other than that you can use Eclipse, Idea or Netbeans as IDE. Inkscape, Gimp and Blender a obviously no problem. Krita might also be interesting.

In no way shape or form use an ATI/AMD card with Linux. If you stick with Nvidia, things will run fine :slight_smile:

Java runs well, all the above listed programs work there + a few others.

Don’t really bother with an antivirus on Linux, its not OS that is usually targeted since its market share is so small, its root/user security model is pretty solid and all software is usually obtained from trusted repositories.

Been using its as a main development system for a number of years, runs great, LWJGL works nicely too.

My ATI card works great with Linux … as a VirtualBox guest. Yeah, the native support sucks pretty bad I’m afraid… in the Linux world, it’s pretty much go Nvidia or go home.

AV on linux is for things like mail and file servers. You don’t need it on your desktop.

Choose big supported distro like Ubuntu or Redhat.

Hmm, why aren’t ATI cards supported in linux as well as Nvidia? Is the JVM’s fault or AMD’s? or both?

Is this problem expressed only in speed or other horrible distortions? :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s ATI’s fault. They made very very crappy drivers. Since AMD bought ATI, they have tried to better the drivers…with little success :wink:

Hi

I agree with you. If you find The Gimp too much complicated, you can use KolourPaint but this one has a very features.

[quote=“Jari_Saro,post:1,topic:38785”]
You don’t really need an antivirus. As far as I know, about 45 viruses have been created for GNU Linux whereas there are more than 500 000 viruses under Windows. If you don’t want to be an affected carrier, just use ClamAv. I disagree with Kappa because GNU Linux is used on most of the servers, it is an interesting target, it is rarely used in desktop environments but it doesn’t explain why there are a very few viruses under it.

[quote=“Jari_Saro,post:1,topic:38785”]
I have developped under GNU Linux for years. I don’t want to start any flame war. I noticed that there were some problems with KDE 3 and LWJGL (straight lines in the taskbar and even in the whole desktop when leaving an application) but they are gone in KDE 4 except a small one (the icons of the right side of the task bar are anormally huge and a part of this bar is black, there is the same problem with some games using SDL or Irrlicht):

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6737/lwjglbug.png

Generally, developping in Java under GNU Linux is not painful. As you plan to use LWJGL, you will use OpenAL, it works fine :slight_smile:

I advise you to use a distro with a good support like Mageia, Ubuntu or Fedora. Both ATI and NVIDIA cards are supported but NVIDIA is known to have a better support. Anyway, I used an open source driver for my previous graphics card (ATI Radeon 9250 Pro) and it was working fine. I now use an NVIDIA graphics card. There might be some problems with drivers but nothing that could be really blocking in most of the cases. The “Nouveau” driver is reliable but sometimes very slow, maybe I did something wrong. Don’t overestimate driver “problems”.

I advise you to use OpenJDK at least to perform some tests because most of GNU Linux distros use it by default. If you use only Oracle JDK, you will discover some problems later. I have noticed small differences in the windowing system, they affect applications using both AWT and SWT. There are some differences in sound support too, in fonts.

I love how Julien always says “GNU Linux”

reminds me of gnu/dad:


http://i.imgur.com/INEiq.jpg

this.

These distros wouldn’t exist without GNU tools. When someone helps me, I give him some credits, I don’t say I did everything by myself. What is wrong with that? I already explained my position about GPL and I don’t see anything funny in it. If your drawing was really coherent, “GNU dad” would provide another explanation, he would rather say : “prevent him from confiscating your toy so that you’ll still be able to borrow it to your other friends later and don’t borrow him any toy if he refuses to borrow his one(s) to children agreeing with borrowing theirs”, it is about fairness, I don’t see what is wrong with that. Secondly, GPL has nothing to do with Microsoft whereas you make a reference to “Gates”. Sorry, my suggestion is less fun that your masterpiece but closer to the reality. You don’t need to laugh about me when you disagree with me. I disagree with you but I don’t try to make a caricature about your positions and I don’t try to make a fool of you. Best regards.

Gosh, I bet we can win this debate if we have it here. ::slight_smile: ::slight_smile: ::slight_smile: ::slight_smile:

I didn’t draw it, its a 4chan creation ^^
I thought that’d be obvious =D

I have to admit that the GNU/Linux thing is a source of amusement for me. I suppose I need to get out more. At first it was “linux is a horrible old skool monolithic kernel hunk of junk…just you wait until we release GNU/Hurd!”. Then linux hit the point where it’s market share was representable as a non zero number in a 32-bit floating point and then the story changes. Seriously the fact that L.T. thinks that it’s dumb (to put it mildly) should be enough.

K&R (and the much forgotten T) create UNIX and C at bell labs. All major UNIX flavors are written in C. Linux is a UNIX flavor. So why isn’t it K&R&T+AT&T/Linux? And why isn’t GCC K&R&T&ATT&T/GCC? That’s actually more logical. And why isn’t Mr. S. insisting on calling all the BSD flavors GNU/BSD-flavor-name? They’re just as dependent (other than a couple of minor things not worth mentioning)

Not much to say, just…
It’s “are” there any Linux java developers ;D

Who invited the grammar nazi?

We have references to 4Chan, might as well have a grammar nazi, also nazi is supposed to be censored? and this beats it?


na[b][/b]zi

Haha yup, JGO apparently replaces nazi with 4 stars: nazi. That is a workaround :slight_smile:

nVidia > ATI for linux…?

:persecutioncomplex:

Yup I saw that video when it first came out and the reality is that almost all hardware support for Linux is terrible. Nvidia may be bad…but ATI is the absolute worst. For example: at least Nvidia drivers work somewhat stably.