Google O3D

[brackeen]

Well this came out of nowhere. Google just release a browser-based 3D API. Small download, loads fast… no security dialogs… shader language…

http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/

Come on JavaFX team, you can’t let Google win!

[h3ckboy]

GO GOOGLE!

[DzzD]

hum… just another 3D plugin ?

EDIT : and no linux …

[brackeen]

@DzzD

hum… just another 3D plugin ?

Yeah, maybe.

This is interesting (from the FAQ):

Why doesn’t O3D use OpenGL’s shading language (GLSL)?
There are a number of reasons we decided against using GLSL as our standard shading language:
NVidia’s OpenGL driver is not in compliance with the GLSL specification and can fail to compile shaders for arbitrary undocumented reasons.
On some graphics hardware capable of programmable shading (e.g., Intel GMA950), the OpenGL driver does not support GLSL, even though the hardware would be capable of it (and has a DirectX9 driver).
Drivers that are in compliance with the specification are allowed to fall back to software rendering for difficult shaders, but there is no way to determine if a given shader will cause a software fallback. This results in unpredictable performance.
There is no well-defined minimum specification that is guaranteed to execute in hardware on all platforms.

Thoughts?

[h3ckboy]

is this for java?

cause if so, cool!

[brackeen]

Nope. JavaScript.

[CaptainJester]

@DzzD

hum… just another 3D plugin ?

EDIT : and no linux …

http://code.google.com/p/o3d/wiki/HowToBuild

Linux
A 32-bit distribution. We currently include V8 which is 32-bit only.
Python >= 2.4
gcc/g++ >= 4.2

[CyanPrime]

Demos?

[h3ckboy]

the video at the bottom.

[brackeen]

Or install it and go here:
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/docs/samplesdirectory.html
Here a JBox2D-JS demo:
http://o3d.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/samples/box2d-3d/box2d-3d.html

It’s obviously new, but something to watch.

[h3ckboy]

@brackeen

Nope. JavaScript.

maybe people could make 3d games in javascript now?

[CyanPrime]

@h3ckboy

maybe people could make 3d games in javascript now?

I’ve barely seen 2D games in JavaScript.

[DzzD]

@CyanPrime

I’ve barely seen 2D games in JavaScript.

cause you didn’t look for

http://games.funnygames.nl/lemmings/index.html

full DHTML / JavaScript lemmings

[Orangy_Tang]

@CyanPrime

I’ve barely seen 2D games in JavaScript.

DEFENDER of the favicon ;D

Although from personal experience javascript is largely too slow to write interesting games. Logic is generally fast enough but actually rendering the result is very slow on most browsers.

[kappa]

looks great, but it’d be years before something like this will become common enough to be worth using (if ever on IE). Unless Google find a rapid way to make this work everywhere, I’m not gonna hold my breath for this.

[Abuse]

@kapta

looks great, but it’d be years before something like this will become common enough to be worth using (if ever on IE). Unless Google find a rapid way to make this work everywhere, I’m not gonna hold my breath for this.

You mean like a killer product to flagship the download? Say… Google Earth?

Seems like a winner to me. Google realy can do no wrong! ;D

[Abuse]

One observation that may interest the Java plugin development team… the O3D plugin consumes right mouse button clicks correctly in FireFox; the Java plguin does not.

Right click in an Applet, then release outside the Applet and Firefox will display a context sensitive popup menu.

[DzzD]

@Abuse

One observation that may interest the Java plugin development team… the O3D plugin consumes right mouse button clicks correctly in FireFox; the Java plguin does not.

Right click in an Applet, then release outside the Applet and Firefox will display a context sensitive popup menu.

O3D doesn’t work that well, on IE6 moving forward while dragging mouse make the whole things weirds

[Abuse]

@DzzD

O3D doesn’t work that well, on IE6 moving forward while dragging mouse make the whole things weirds

That’s just a bug in the Beech demo, no?

:edit:

Having said that while the Stencil Example is running my entire machine periodically lock-ups every 10 seconds for 5-15 seconds at a time =/ I don’t recommend you try that particular example =)

So it’s obviously not going to be bug free, but It’s a new technology, i’m willing to reserve judgement until it’s released.

[gouessej]

@DzzD

O3D doesn’t work that well, on IE6 moving forward while dragging mouse make the whole things weirds

I prefer your engine that works fine here under Linux.