Any JGOs going to mars?

Q: How much did it cost to send a tiny robotic drone to mars?
Q: How much more would it cost to send multiple humans and ALL the equipment to support for a minimal amount of time…include state-of-the-art renewal systems?
Q: Why is anyone taking this seriously?

Enjoy sleeping in the carousell :smiley:

Acceleration and gravity should have the same effect according to my physics book. I don’t know why I feel like vomiting in a spinning carousell though… :slight_smile:

Because your inner ear tells you that you are stationary (constant acceleration, just like gravity) while you see that the world is spinning. This conflicting input can cause you to get sick.

So, as long as you don’t have windows in your spinning vehicle, it’ll be just fine.

Damnit, I was just about to say something like that. Ninja’d.

Makes sense.

I am glad that I don’t throw up every time I hear two conflicting statements :), political debates would be unbearable…

Stationary = constant speed, not accelearation. You definetely wouldn’t feel stationary if you jump from the 10th floor… You’ll feel the acceleration (gravity changing your velocity) all the way down, and then when you hit the floor (constant Velocity = 0) you’ll be dead stationary…

Because it’s interesting and bring out wild imagination :smiley:

The babbling bit I totally get…it’s the believing that it’s remotely feasible part that I don’t.

Hehe…I actually started to look at the website…it’s even funnier than anything here:

Big, heavy equipment won’t even be present in the settlement for the first few years
Oh man!

A machine that makes bricks, so they can construct new living quarters (covered by sand and sealed by a thin plastic foil to keep the air in)
Stop! You’re killing me here!

Actually as soon as you stand up, it isn’t, not for any length of time. You have less gravity at your head than you do at your feet, which is going to make your equilibrium scream “something is WRONG!!!” the whole time, especially when you start walking around.

That part might be fixable with experience (sailors don’t get seasick after all) and possibly some surgical tweaks to the inner ear. You’d have to spin fast as hell to get even a moderate size ship to 0.3G, and that makes the differential worse.

That doesn’t sound implausible at all. A brick press isn’t exactly ultra high tech, just repurpose a hydraulic pump or two from the ship. 'course making bricks from what amounts to sand and not clay dirt might be a bit trickier.

We have the same problem on Earth, so I guess whether it is relevant, depends on the diameter of your rotating vehicle :slight_smile:

I guess we can make those vehicles fold out in space, just like with solar panels, so that we don’t have to launch objects with horrible aerodynamics.

This is a hilarious conversation. :slight_smile:

Agreed.

It occurs to me that bricks would become more plausible if you added some organic material from the outside to substitute for the clay. Perhaps “contributed” by the crew, lending some verisimilitude to another phrase involving bricks…

You can’t just take material out of the cycle that produces and transforms food. Also, bringing the materials to create bricks to Mars would be rather inefficient, as there are lighter and stronger materials available to build walls.

terraforming craters would be more efficient.

Average temperature: ~210 K (-63 C)
Diurnal temperature range: 184 K to 242 K (-89 to -31 C) (Viking 1 Lander site)
Wind speeds: 2-7 m/s (summer), 5-10 m/s (fall), 17-30 m/s (dust storm) (Viking Lander sites)
Atmospheric composition (by volume):
Major : Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 95.32% ; Nitrogen (N2) - 2.7%
Argon (Ar) - 1.6%; Oxygen (O2) - 0.13%; Carbon Monoxide (CO) - 0.08%
Minor (ppm): Water (H2O) - 210; Nitrogen Oxide (NO) - 100; Neon (Ne) - 2.5;
Hydrogen-Deuterium-Oxygen (HDO) - 0.85; Krypton (Kr) - 0.3;
Xenon (Xe) - 0.08

brick houses covered in plastic wrap? water? or hydrogen? Really good sleeping bags? Need decomp rooms and a pair of very good pumps. two really good sealing doors. water vapor & condensation in decomp room? Ya gotta be kidding me.

Even funnier is the “team”:

  1. business guy
  2. physics guy (started hey let’s go to mars thing is 98)
  3. graphic artist
  4. marketing chick.

Then the “ambassadors”:
Last one: Reality TV dude. Ah! I see. Humanity driven thing. What better way to “choose” the astro’s by having a show where we all choose who goes by watching them during training…say making brick houses and wrapping them in plastic wrap…AND make money for the mission. Call X: press ‘1’ to vote for Chaz, ‘2’ for …

“Suzanne Flinkenflögel (1982) is responsible for the marketing and communications of Mars One. She graduated in 2005 in International Business Communications and Spanish at the University of Nijmegen. She is known for her online marketing and social media knowledge and is passionate about webanalytics.”

2500 hits on Google.

Googled my own name for ~490 000 hits.