A java applet gaming portal

I have often found it unfair and strange that there is no place where java game developers simply can display their applets and also have a chance to earn some money. There are plenty of portals for Flash games but none for java.

Instead of just feeling sad for myself, I decided to create a site where casual gamers easily should be able to enjoy java games (with the added quality and depth that it gives compared to flash games, as we all know :wink: ). At the same time it should be a site that finally is really friendly to java applet game developers.

So gamers can enjoy great games, and also enjoy community features if they want, such as compete for highscores, rate and give feedback on games chat and so on.

The plan is that devs can submit games without having to sell their sole, but at the same time be able to profit if the game is popular. This is done through profit sharing on ad income. On top of that it is very easy to get the added benefit of easily adding online highscores to the games, and get gamer feedback and general stats about usage. As we saw in the 4k compo it really makes a game more fun!

By having one portal we hope to generate more traffic to each game than what it would get if they are all hosted on different sites. (You can still have your games on your own or other sites, this would just be another great way to reach out to gamers and get feedback).

There has been a lot of debate about how good applets are for gaming in this forum, but one thing is pretty clear, and that is that it has never been as good of a time to use applets for gaming as now, so come on and send in all your great applet games and we can show that JAVA is THE WAY to do gamin on the net.

Note that the site is in open beta and the todo-list is 3.14 miles long :P, but the site should generally be working, even though slow connections, outages, lost data and falling rocks could happen. I hope to transition from beta into full version without a reset, it all depends on what changes needs to be done, just so you know.

Well, head on over, sign up, surf around and let me know what you think. Submit your games. There is an incubator section where games live that are playable, but devs like to get feedback on game tuning and so on, before maturing to a ready game, so games doesn’t have to be 100% ready either. Most importantly, if you have any hesitation about sending in your games, let us know! We are trying to make this site the site that we as a indie game dev been longing for, but if you wont join, it won’t be a great site.

Send in your games! Nothing to lose and lots to gain! 8)

games4j.com

Reading it over, it looked a bit long and glossy, but too tired to fix it now, and I probably still forgot something that I meant to say… Feeling a bit worn out, so let me down easy if you think this is a waste of time, and do come with suggestions on what to change/improve and what to do next. I dropped the 4K compo this year (and lots of other things) to do this instead, so I do hope you like it :slight_smile:

This post does not add to the discussion. Although other portals do exist, this topic is about jojoh’s portal. Please edit this post and make it more appropriate and less confrontational. - Demonpants

= CENSORSHIP & violation of the freedom of expression - Julien GOUESSE

You reported woogly’s post because it was an “insult.” So I read over this thread as objectively as I could and I took out what I thought was detrimental to JGO. A direct swear-word-based insult is no different in philosophy than telling someone that what they did is a waste of time and giving them absolutely no helpful response, which is what your post did. If you have a problem with my moderation, please PM me instead of preaching about censorship. - Demonpants

Snipped - please no flaming on JGO. If you have a problem with a post, report it. NO INSULTS. - Demonpants

With that said, jojoh, well done with that site. It looks very modern, clean cut, and has a healthy amount of features. You’ve found a great balance of good design without being too distractingly flashy (the top menu is smooth, yet subtle).

Though I’ve always enjoyed your 4K games, I think excluding yourself this year to instead make this site was a great decision. Kudos to you! I think it would be great if you and appel collaborate again to bring some of this modern design to java4k.com

Regarding the highscore list … is that an API any game can plug in to? I’d probably submit my games just for that :wink:

edit: after spending some time on the site, I’ve reached the conclusion that the background is too bright!

Pretty slick!

My only comments would be that the background is a bit bright (or perhaps just a bit too saturated) and it’d be nice if the applets were centered rather than left-aligned. Other than that it looks good.

Hurray for jojoh for doing it! :smiley:

Pi get it! ;D

Hey now, that’s not fair at all. First off we only have demo 1 of TUER. Have you played demo 2? I think not. I’m sure it’s way better than demo 1, or at least will be when it’s finished.

TUER has no place in this topic. Just because Julien posts in a topic it does not give you a reason to bring up TUER. That would be like me saying “woogley is just talking shit because Super Mario Bros. 3 is better than Super Mario World!”

[quote=“woogley,post:3,topic:33583”]
Funny, I don’t see the word Applet in that quote at all, and that’s the one Julien was talking about when he brought up all those other sites.

Hi!

I have reported this to the moderator, you could explain your opinions without insulting people.

[quote=“woogley,post:3,topic:33583”]
Jojoh said:

He didn’t say that there are no popular APPLET portals, he didn’t speak about popular portals. Therefore you’re wrong.

I’m not in any competition, I have another ideology, I don’t mind any market. The Game Tomb? Are you speaking about the Java Game Tome? If so, it is not very nice for kingaschi :frowning: When I left the project, I was a bit bitter but I think he has succeeded in creating a nicer and prettier portal with about 160 Java games, it is not nothing :smiley:

Of course, I agree with CyanPrime.

woogley IS a moderator. No doubt he just deleted your report. :frowning:

Except RoadFourK, I have found only Flash games :-\

it seems to be pretty common to use the java brand to advertise flash games (e.g http://java-gaming.com/). But i think in the case of games4j.com they are just placehoders until someone uploads java games…

@Jojoh
I like the page good work. Remove the stars in the background and make it a bit darker to increase contrast and it is IMO perfect :wink:

Look at the topic subject.

My point is, Julien really has no right barging in saying how angry he is for someone else making a better site. Also, you’ve only been around since February, so why don’t you lurk more before you post.

Julien, I don’t normally speak up, but your consistent arrogant loudness forces me to. You’ve polluted way too many threads where FGF/JOGL don’t even belong. You take things way too personally. Don’t come in announcing how angry you are about someone else’s work. Not only is it rude, it’s unneccessary.

Speaking of polluting threads, if you (or CyanPrime) have further comments to me about this, use the private message feature.

It is not the problem! He said that there is no portal for Java games! Stop telling lies! You misquote what I wrote, it is unfair!!! I have never written I’m angry because his portal is better, read once again what I wrote! Saying that there is no portal for Java games is a way of denying the work that has been done on existing portals (not only mine) for Java games, ugly or not, famous or not, useful or not. That’s all. I have nothing to add publically, we will go on through private messages if required.

goussej, you started the misquoting. You took jojoh’s words and based on that single quoted sentence you made it sound as if he denies the existance all Java portals. The context of his message is clear. The subject line mentions “applet” as does the introductory paragraph.

Now I understand that you’re not a native English speaker, so if this was your first post I would ascribe your misunderstanding to that. But from the way you have posted here before, most people will get the idea that your post has some malicious intent.

I fully understand what you stand for, and I understand that you are passionate about it, but perhaps you come across a bit different from what you think?

People aren’t going to join your cause or even feel sympathy for you if they perceive you to be an aggressive zealot. Especially not when you base your arguments on misquotes/misunderstandings.

You’re just extremely fucking childish aren’t you? You know what? I have nothing else to say to you until you grow up.

That still doesn’t give woogley the right to flame him. You’d be pissed too if JGO staff was calling you a fucking nutjob, and saying your work was a piece of shit. I’m really getting sick of seeing this forum treat gouessej like a inhuman beatstick. KevGlass seems to be right about this place after all.

Yes, woogley’s tone inappropriate. And I’m sure a lot of the other flames against goussej elsewhere are inappropriate too, but goussej isn’t without blame.

If a person has strong beliefs then they must expect to get strong resistance as well.

[…]

What goussej is doing isn’t wrong, one could even say that some of the goals he’s trying to achieve is noble, but at some point it’s going to start annoying people. And once you’ve reached that threshold you have a choice: back off, or face the flak.

That seems like a good point to end this site issue.
Let’s keep the rest of this thread for games4j.com. If you feel like talking more about this side isssue, then please start another topic. I will address this misunderstanding shortly.

Yeah, sorry about riding the derailed train, jojoh. :slight_smile:

I’m curious, though, how big do you think the market is for applets? Do you have specific numbers (number of games in x months, etc) in mind for your website? Most of the games on the other java sites aren’t applets, so where will you be getting most of your content from? Mostly existing games? Or new?