As much as I like SEGA’s consoles (the DC is one of my favourites), they pretty much messed up every attempt after the Genesis/Mega Drive. Commercially anyway.
Of couse. I still use Windows regularly for that reason alone.
But current Windows-only software is not designed for future windows versions anyway, so why keep Windows alive for current Windows-only software?
If windows dies, the software should die with it and move on to the next platform of choice.
The same happened for example with music software for the Atari ST, like Cubase. As the platform died, the software just moved to another platform.
It’ll take a long time for Windows to die, but if it continues on its current path, it certainly will.
What I think is likely is that Windows will fall by the wayside not because people will start installing Linux and buying Macs, but because technology will move in a different direction that Windows will not be able to keep up with. Look at how successful the iPhone is. A device that you can do everything on and is (more or less) constantly connected to the web. No wires, no worrying about different wireless WEP keys and all that. Now Apple is coming out with tablet computers soon, which I guarantee will be more or less large fast iPhones. Imagine they’re fast enough to do everything that you want, and can also easily go with you anywhere. Bam, desktop computers become obsolete except for niche markets like servers.
I disagree. It will be the classic laptop vs. computer’s argument. COST! those tablets(knowing apple) will cost like 3k$ that is more money than most ppl can just fork over :P.
Also, If windows died. I would probably never touch a computer again… I might use linux. But I would NEVER EVER use a mac. They are terrible. Tehy try to control every little thing that you do. They are completely seperate from every other operating system.
I think you’re missing my point. I definitely meant long time (I italicized it, see? :P) when I said it. The costs of tablets will have to go down and the technology has to continue to evolve, but if there’s anything that Microsoft is not at all good at it’s evolving. Apple has shown to be brilliant at it, which is why my guess is that Windows will stopped being used just because it will become obsolete for current systems. If you’re still thinking about desktops or laptops, then you’re not thinking in the same place I’m thinking. Imagine Minority Report type stuff. I don’t think Microsoft is at the helm of what’s becoming that (gesture recognition) nor do I think they will be.
Seems to be a lot of windows hate here.
Personally I don’t like using Macs, I hate using Linux and will keep on using Windows. Windows 7 is a dream for me.
There’s also AmigaOS, but I don’t know anyone using the latest version. Anyone here tried it?
I’m not a Windows hater (used it for years), but I am a Vista hater. Really, I gave it fair a chance (remembering how people traditionally always hate the latest windows versions), but I can’t really understand how people can defend something like that.
I hear Windows 7 is better (I haven’t tried it yet) but really, after vista the only way is up.
because fact is, the only reason they are still in business in every sections they are present is because of success they had back then, with windows 95 times.
and because they are so big, have so much money, and many are dependent on them.
they are not in business because they are doing a good job NOW but only because they used to.
its like a genius who invented something and got rich, but now is drunk every day and pisses everyone off but you still cant get rid of him
I couldn’t disagree more. The majority of people at home and in businesses don’t care about this debate of ‘best OS’ or ‘are Microsoft good or bad’. They use MS software because it gets the job done, and gets it done (at least for them) to a high standard. Locking users into software only goes so far, it’s not enough to stop people switching to alternate software over time if they truly want to switch.
A good example is the popularity of FireFox in recent years. For many people it’s superior to Internet Explorer so people are switching.
Well I think you’re both right (JL and Cero). With something like a browser it’s very easy to make a switch, because all you’re doing is going on the internet. That’s largely a personal enterprise, so you don’t need to give a damn about what’s used in the majority. Whereas with something like Microsft Office or Microsoft Exchange, you’re basically screwed if you switch to other software, because although most alternatives can import and export in the same formats, you’ll always have little artifacts or problems in doing so. As a result, you’re stuck with the same stuff.
I mean, really. Who can say that Microsoft Office is better than iWork, at least at this point? It has more to do with the fact that iWork is newer and so not quite as shackled than anything else - but like I said I don’t think Microsoft is good at adapting.
[quote]I mean, really. Who can say that Microsoft Office is better than iWork, at least at this point? It has more to do with the fact that iWork is newer and so not quite as shackled than anything else - but like I said I don’t think Microsoft is good at adapting.
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Can’t say I’ve heard of iWork, but I have found it better then anything I’ve used.
But I can say that Chrome is totally better then IE8.
@Cero: hey man, dont diss windows just because of vista!!!
Windows 7 is better than mac OSX!!! yes even the precious snow lepeord(aka, new theme). I have heard windows haters to the extreme, say that windows 7 is better than osx, so it isnt just me.
not to mention XP. that is one of the best OS’s ever made!! I still has a strong grip on the market, and it is 5+ years old!!!
When XP was first released it was full of massive security issues and stability issues. Far worse then all of the issues people have with Vista. It’s only around SP2 that it started to get very good. I still find it too unstable to this day, but mostly hate the terrible pause times the moment any heavy disk IO occurred.
I used to have to pause my music before I compiled my Java programs because it would cause the music to stutter. On the same hardware the issue does not occur under Vista.
Okay. Curious about Windows 7 (because I’ve heard a lot of people lately say OMG it’s AWESHUM), I went to the Microsoft site so I could see some of the features they’re showing off.
And from that, I was not at all impressed. It’s fine to say Windows 7 is nice, it does look pretty nice. But it’s just dumb to say that Mac OS X sucks when you’re talking about how nice Windows 7 is. Why? Because almost all of the features they’re touting have been implemented (in a stable way) for years on Mac OS X. A summary:
Twice they talked about how great their instant search feature is. It’s exactly the same as Spotlight on Mac OS X, which I’ve been using since early 2005.
Also twice they talked about easily connecting to printers in your network, which Apple has been calling Bonjour since 2002.
They bragged about how you could have slideshows in your desktop backgrounds, which I think has been around since the first version of Mac OS X.
They showed off being able to quickly go through music and movies on the machine in a pretty interface, which has been called Font Row on Mac OS X since 2005, not to mention that it comes with a remote control.
Ooh, parental controls. Not only is that silly to advertise because it is just so behind, but I’ve had that option in my system preferences window on Mac OS X for as long as I can remember.
I sort of can’t believe that they tout the fact that you can finally get rid of a lot of those stupid notifications, but I guess that’s necessary when trying to sell an OS to people who have been using Vista.
They also talk about how cool their window comparison junk is, which is simultaneously an Exposé (2003) and a Stacks (2007) copy. Also, it’s still worse than the two, from what I can see.
Apple has been including “Recent Items” in the menu since Mac OS 9, and since Mac OS X was first released you could keep useful apps in the dock and tick click on them for various actions. In the video Windows shows this aged feature off as a great new thing.
IE8 will apparently have “web slices,” which quickly shows a small portion of a page that has updated recently. I will admit, that’s fairly nifty, but not altogether impressive.
Omigosh no way, Windows Live includes easy-to-use out-of-the-box photo browsing? Cool! Oh wait, I’ve had that in iLife since 2003, plus iPhoto existed outside of iLife since Mac OS X first came out, as did Preview.
The new DVR features I will admit are also cool, but I think it’s fairly insane that they tout the fact that you can “pause, rewind, and fastforward” the recorded TV. Seriously? Is that a feature?
And while we’re at old features, you should note that most of the stuff in Mac OS X is stuff that was already implemented at NeXT, Steve Jobs’s company (in between being fired from Apple and re-hired at Apple), and that a lot of Mac OS X is basically re-engineered versions of NeXT features. NeXT started in 1985, by the way. Have a look at this for proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A
Did I maybe make a point? Yes, Windows 7 has nice features, but they’ve almost all been done already, a long time ago. So, choose Windows if you want, that’s fine, but don’t tout it’s awesome features as the reason why it’s better than Mac OS X, because that just shows that you haven’t actually tried Mac OS X. And if your reason is this: “I would NEVER EVER use a mac. They are terrible. Tehy try to control every little thing that you do. They are completely seperate from every other operating system.” then I don’t know exactly what you mean. I don’t feel controlled. If you’re talking about Steve Jobs being a **** and Apple being incredibly over-protective of their copyrights, then I agree that’s over the top and not something I like. But none of it controls me. And I think Mac being “completely separate from every other operating system” is another unfounded thing to say, considering that Apple has significantly more bridge software to work with PCs than PC has ever had to work with Mac. That’s not because Apple is awesome or anything, it’s because they needed to do that for their own survival, but it still exists. Plus they made it very easy and very legal to install Windows on your Apple machines, and transferring between the two is also easy. So… what do you mean by that?
Yeah except the features Windows 7 touts that have just been implemented in Windows 7 have been around on Mac for years. What do you think Apple has done in the meantime? Added new features, of course. Unlike Windows, Apple releases a major upgrade to their OS every year, all with a lot of new features. Snow Leopard is the only one so far that has been “minor,” but it still has a good amount of changes. Wait 10 years and Windows will start bragging about how their OS is finally optimized for multicore systems, how you can write Chinese characters using the trackpad, use the graphics card for calculations, have 512x512 icons, etc. And that’s just some of the stuff Snow Leopard added in, which is a minor update. Leopard has plenty more features that Windows still doesn’t have, like an easy-to-use action automator program, instant network access to shared drives, wonderfully working virtual desktops, instant preview right in the file browser of videos, images, etc., I mean I could go on.
Vista was better optimised for multi-core PCs over XP, it can handle icons up to 256x256 and MS have been developing GPGPU libraries for .NET for several years now.
