I’m interested in how many people would choose an opensource platform to develop game softwares. ???
I have just switched over to Ubuntu 9.10. I think Linux finally has a user-experience to truly compete with Windows. By the way, I’m not an intrinsic Windows hater. I have used Windows since '95, but I like getting things done. I have found that Ubuntu does just that.
I used to use Ubuntu for programming and enjoyed using it; but once I got a second monitor that all changed. Plus I also found NetBeans ran faster under Windows.
As much as Linux is finally starting to be able to compete with Windows as a desktop OS, I also think Windows is able to compete better and better against Unix with tools such as Powershell.
slackware on the 3 machines at home. Suse at work… all but one machine is dual screen. And I use eclipse as my main dev tool. Netbeans for profiling, but recently switched to jvisualvm.
I booted windows last December to play some Battle for middle earth 2, haven’t booted it again (dog slow, win 7 may be better than vista, but thats not the same as good).
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As I already said “utiliser Linux est un devoir civique pour l’Homme épris d’égalité et de respect des libertés individuelles” = “using Linux is a civic duty for the guys who love equality and the respect of their individual rights”. I use exclusively Linux. When an employer forces me to use Windows, I finally demand using Linux anew and if he refuses, I quit my job.
Well… as I already said: “het gebruik van Linux mag dan wel zowel gratis als vrij in gebruik zijn, ik moet er wel minstens even productief in kunnen zijn als in Windows, dus betaal ik Microsoft om de zoveel jaar voor de moeite die ze er in hebben gestopt om het geheel gebruiksvriendelijk te maken” = ‘use google translate’
Anyway, I voted both Windows (dekstop) and Debian (server) as it is minimalistic and rock solid.
I find it a bit silly to leave a job solely because of an OS. As long as I can do the job and I enjoyed it; then I wouldn’t care what I have to run.
Man, I had no idea Dutch was so verbose.
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Please don’t tell me you also split with your girlfriend some months ago because she was a Windows user .
Anyway , I use Eclipse with Windows XP (though I love equality and respect individual rights) .
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You can live with your own contradictions but don’t expect from everyone to do the same. My previous girlfriends were not allowed to use Windows at home because it decreases my sex appeal
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Lol and you love corruption (Microsoft corrupted at least some standardization committees), intimidation, threats, DRM, “tied” sales (nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed), Windows Genuine Advantage (that inspects the contents of users’ hard drives), software patents, don’t you? It is not really compatible with individual rights.
I find it a bit silly not to leave a job that drives you ill. I become almost depressive when I spend more than 3 months at work under Windows. Most of the guys here have got accustomed to Windows bugs, not me.
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Well, indeed. The folks in the Microsoft boardroom are certainly not a fine bunch of guys. They did extremely nasty stuff in the past (like refusing to deliver Windows to IBM, if IBM would buy a license from Netscape), which these days would be severely punished by several authorities (both in the USA as in the EU).
Still… I wouldn’t want to lose my productivity, so I buy Windows. Nothing else, no Office, no games that MS made… just Windows. And in my opinion, it is €100 well spent.
On a sidenote:
My mom says I gain sex appeal when I pick Vista from the grub bootloader.
I really don’t care what people choose as i can use what i want. I just wish they wouldn’t tell me i need windows+office (Not cheap) to read dam docx files. Hit the convert to pdf button please.
Because of lost productivity, when i was a contractor i changed and extra 30NZ per hour if it was on widows. At one interview they asked why? I said so i could drink away my frustrations each night at the pub and still afford rent. The really funny part, they gave me the job and added another $10 per hour.
But my game will be 100% windows/Mac compatible and tested.
I really don’t care about it. Not enough to think about quitting my job - not because Microsoft’s hands are dirty . If you stop to think about it, I bet half of things you use/consume (not necessarily computer related), are made by company whose hands are dirty .
(France’s hands are really dirty throughout history with all conquest/colonization/slavery stuff . Do you feel like leaving your country for that?)
As Riven said, my productivity is fine with windows . I don’t want to bother changing .
Anyway, I think OS is like religion or football team . Useless to argue about it .
ps. my girlfriend hates it when I use Linux, because my webcam doesn’t work there and she can’t see me .
It was inevitable that this thread would become a holy war
For me the advantages of open source are purely practical. If I’m using a library, and I have a bug which I think is caused by something weird going on inside that library, I can just look its source to see what it’s doing. That’s convenient. The fact that I’m using “free as in speech” software is irrelevant to me.
I mainly use an operating system as a user. So, more important than looking at the source are things such as working audio. I primarily use a Mac, but I’m fine with using Windows and Ubuntu if needed.
Wow.
Linux as a civic duty for those who love equality and respect of individual rights? (All my opinion from this sentence forward)
I think this is an absurd claim to make. The Linux zealots are just as bad as any other group. Period.
I wonder how you would feel if Linux became the dominate installed OS in PCs that tied the distribution to a corporate contract? You state elsewhere in this thread that to prefer Windows means that you embrace corruption? Ridiculous. I am not a Microsoft apologist (as I type this on my MacBook Pro) and, yes, they have done some pretty absurd things in the past, but we are talking about a company trying to protect their investment in their developed products.
And, to be perfectly clear, while I may not agree with DRM policies as they have been implemented across a wide variety of platforms, your rights only extend as far the license a manufacturer/artist/developers offers you, no matter how unfair you feel it is. There is nothing wrong with protecting original works and demanding compensation for the investment you have made. That extends from the corporation all the way down to the individual.
Last time I checked, you could not pay for groceries with good intent and giving away your work.
As for quitting your job if the employer did not bend to your request means that you are using force (threats) to bend them to your point of view. How is that any less aggressive or self righteous than any big company?
I have never said that I was proud of being French and actually, it is a shame and I do my best, I’m a political activist, I don’t flee, I stay in France but I try to do something. I think that lots of “countries” hands are dirty at a different level, it would not be really better somewhere else. When I have the choice between something “dirty” and something noticeably less dirty, I prefer using the second one.
Most of you here have chosen to be pragmatic. You cannot always be in the most comfortable situation, you cannot have the best of the both behaviors, we cannot be both pragmatic and not pragmatic. You have to face the consequences of your choices even though being pragmatic allows you to avoid some conflicts.
ChrisM, I have forgotten to say that my employers have always known even before hiring me that putting me under Windows is not an option; if they don’t take it into account, I find legitimate to remind them it cannot go on as I did with my current one, I stayed almost 2 months and an half under Windows Vista, I used this time to use a more diplomatic way rather than the threat even though this way was not totally excluded. Concerning DRM, when you pay your music and you cannot listen to it anymore because you have just changed a component of your computer, it is not fair and I’m sure you would not be glad of wasting it.
Not really being a political activist myself, I enjoy the imagination and creativity sparked by infinite shades of grey.
There is no real business, on a major scale, that operates this way anymore. Companies that have tried this route have been burned and change their methods. Rapidly.
Effective DRM has to strike a balance between fair use and protection of assets. I think, to be honest, that Apple has done a very reasonable job of this. 5 computers have access to the same protected music, all can share across your home network (even WinXX to OX X), 20 burns of the same playlist before requiring you to reshuffle the list, etc.
And, why is Linux excluded form that Apple scenario? The consumer Linux market is not big enough for Apple to care, quite honestly.
On this point I have to agree. However you can easily save yourself this trouble. Just burn the song to a CD. Then if you want it back on your machine you can rip it to an MP3. You own the copy so you can use it for yourself how you like.
Yes, but a compressed rip of an already compressed track…for electronica or pop, no biggie. For Jazz? Hmmm…