Virtual Reality

[delt0r]

I have played Valkyrie and it was awesome. I also played the cheaper gun whatever one it is called for the Samsung phones. They both work really well. Much better than i expected. However i tried the cardboard thing for phones and it was terrible. You really need good head tracking to work. Phone gyros don’t cut it.

Even if they get popular because of other applications, it makes them common. Also AR requires quite different features than VR. I really like the idea of AR but it always going to be transparent, until we get 3rd generation retina implants!

[NegativeZero]

Considering that the only interesting AR in development (HoloLens) is pretty low quality (it only has 30 fov, it’s believed that AR overall might be physically limited to this value due to the qualities of glass) and dev kits are $5,000, I suspect that AR is still quite a few years away.

Meanwhile, now, the fov on (1st gen!) VR is three to four times as high.

[NegativeZero]

Why Sony Delayed PlayStation VR Until This Fall

Sony believe that they’ll sell 1-2 million PSVR kits before the end of the year (and they’re only releasing in October)

[Phased]

Google just posted a video about their break through in VR technology, I think we have almost got full VR immersion.

Here is their page about it

VkOuShXpoKc

[SirSoltex]

Got me good @Phased. was confused till I remembered what day it was, can’t trust anything on the internet today :persecutioncomplex:

[Cero]

@NegativeZero

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-sony-delayed-playstation-vr-until-this-fall/1100-6436089/

Sony believe that they’ll sell 1-2 million PSVR kits before the end of the year (and they’re only releasing in October)

Comparatively low price point AND you dont need a strong VR PC only a ps4 which you would have anyway.
So yeah I can see this taking of real good. I was surprised at the low price point, and it does 90fps min.
Sony is not really in a financial position for taking risks on selling hardware, so yeah

[NegativeZero]

@Cero

@NegativeZero

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-sony-delayed-playstation-vr-until-this-fall/1100-6436089/

Sony believe that they’ll sell 1-2 million PSVR kits before the end of the year (and they’re only releasing in October)

Comparatively low price point AND you dont need a strong VR PC only a ps4 which you would have anyway.
So yeah I can see this taking of real good. I was surprised at the low price point, and it does 90fps min.
Sony is not really in a financial position for taking risks on selling hardware, so yeah

Yeah. And there is talk that they might also be bringing compatibility with Windows, which will be huge for VR adoption. Having a headset that requires a lower end PC, a lower cost headset, and cross compat with console will mean more devs will dev for both platforms.

[delt0r]

Personally i won’t touch VR until I don’t have to target a particular VR set. The API should be generic already and cross vendor. Didn’t we learn this lesson like 1000x time already!

[NegativeZero]

@delt0r

Personally i won’t touch VR until I don’t have to target a particular VR set. The API should be generic already and cross vendor. Didn’t we learn this lesson like 1000x time already!

[s]
Currently the issue is that while Steam’s OpenVR allows for any HMD, Oculus hasn’t allowed support for their HMDs in OpenVR, and Oculus aren’t letting other HMDs into their SDK.

I suspect that as OpenVR supports several HMDs (currently Vive and OSVR) while Oculus’ SDK only supports the Rift, devs are going to move towards Steam’s option and Oculus will be forced to add support for OpenVR, or add support for 3rd party HMDs into their SDK.[/s]

EDIT: Apparently I’m wrong

[Phased]

@NegativeZero

@delt0r

Personally i won’t touch VR until I don’t have to target a particular VR set. The API should be generic already and cross vendor. Didn’t we learn this lesson like 1000x time already!

Currently the issue is that while Steam’s OpenVR allows for any HMD, Oculus hasn’t allowed support for their HMDs in OpenVR, and Oculus aren’t letting other HMDs into their SDK.

I suspect that as OpenVR supports several HMDs (currently Vive and OSVR) while Oculus’ SDK only supports the Rift, devs are going to move towards Steam’s option and Oculus will be forced to add support for OpenVR, or add support for 3rd party HMDs into their SDK.

Correction:

Oculus wants to support the HTC Vive in the Oculus SDK, they also want to add Asynchronous Timewarp to the Vive.

I think it is more of a “Our SDK is the superior one, lets make it the standard”

Source

[kaffiene]

@NegativeZero

@kaffiene

We have a Vive at work which we’ve prototyped a few different games with. I think it’s true to say that first person is the most reasonable POV for VR but I don’t think there are going to be a lot of FPSs. One of the major issues is that people don’t think you should move the camera and without motion, a modern FPS isn’t possible. I think you will find a few strategy games with the God-view and a few first person games where you interact with a environment rather than enemies. But the thing that REALLY bothers me is this idea of not moving the camera. If people can’t get over that, I doubt how varied VR experiences are going to be. No variety == no market.

Off-topic: You do professional game dev in NZ? Where do you work?

On-topic: There are confirmed to be ~60 games utilising roomscale at launch for the Vive.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4brd45/list_of_roomscale_games/

For those not in the know, roomscale is the ability to move throughout the game world by moving through the real world, and is being heavily pushed by Valve through the HTC Vive.

I work at Rocketwerkz in Dunedin.

The Roomscale feature is cool - I think it’s a major reason why Vive VR has less of a problem making players nauseous.

[Cero]

Today the Vive officially launched so Steam is full of stuff.

IKEA VR Experience
Design your home with ikea furniture before you run out and buy.

VR is gonna change everything

games might be built with VR, even normal games.
besides teaching, architects and engineers may use VR to design shit
Even stuff thats so obscure we might not even think about… intutive visualisation of data in a 3D space… signals, aircraft traffic, space stuff
Online Poker…
interact with people far away… friends, family, even business calls
playing board games online together like tabletop simulator…
VR cinema to watch ANYTHING together online
Virtual shops to shop for anything and check it out, since we all already shop so much online, as I buy even groceries online

Can you imagine a scientist looking at a virus or DNA or blood data rendered from actual data into this VR space ?

VR will be everywhere soon.

[jonjava]

@Cero

IKEA VR Experience
Design your home with ikea furniture before you run out and buy.

Fuck me in the asshole.

[Cero]

haha yea…

[Cero]

after MRI scan doctor shows you in VR exactly what it looks like, you can rotate around go in and out
and so can he for analysis

the ideas just keep coming =D

[Cero]

Space Engine in VR. Blows my mind just imagining.

[ags1]

@jonjava

@Cero

IKEA VR Experience
Design your home with ikea furniture before you run out and buy.

http://i.imgur.com/47cENGd.png

f**k me in the asshole.

Please let’s stay away from crude and borderline homophobic comments.

[delt0r]

@ags1

@jonjava

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f**k me in the asshole.

Please let’s stay away from crude and borderline homophobic comments.

One, you don’t know they are a man. Two plenty of heterosexual people enjoy butt sex. But it is crude, i’ll give you that.

Sorry Riven i tried not to reply but couldn’t help myself.

[ags1]

True. I was making a number of assumptions and I apologise.

[NegativeZero]

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This is the single greatest VR video I have seen.