This game sums up a lot

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#1

I would not say I am a very hard person to please, however when it comes to games the last decent FPS worth a salt that I played was BF2, not including single player as I did enjoy such games as Metro 2033.

My mate came on skype and hit out with “You heard of titanfall, looks awesome”. He then links the website.

Looks good right? Well I was instantly put off it by the very first line in the first paragraph which reads:

“Crafted by one of the co-creators of Call of Duty and other key developers behind the Call of Duty franchise”

Then it got better, with this at the bottom:

“Founded in 2010, Respawn Entertainment is an independent videogame development studio”

Really?

http://s26.postimg.org/xga1b7cy1/indiecompany.png

Since when was being published by EA and having your game hosted on Origin make you independent?

Am I the only one that seems to be picking up games these days, installing them and getting bored a few hours later? Because I can see that happening with this.

#2

I’m with you, the last Battlefield I’ll play is BFBC2. Yeah, its pretty recent, but I think its the last Battlefield before they kind of sold their souls out and started turning into what Call of Duty is. Games just bore me nowadays, I would rather code. I mean, I play these games:
Payday 2
Battlefield Bad Company 2 and BF2

And honest to god that’s about it. Gaming is just getting boring…

#3

So you guys won’t be buying the EA indie bundle then? ::slight_smile:

#4

Please tell me that is a joke…

#5

I am sortof in agreement with you guys. With these kind of games, I usually sit back until either NerdCubed plays it or Total Biscuit reviews it (Total Biscuit more than NerdCubed). If either of those Youtubers recommend the game and I am interested in it, I might buy it. That is pretty much how I decide wich games to get. I don’t look at the company or their past really.

I can guess that I will probably be getting Titan Fall off of Total Biscuit’s review of the beta but I will wait until after he reviews the full game because betas can be deceiving.
note that I also get games based off of what my friends have because every game is better with friends

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#6

Since always. There’s always been games produced by little companies published/distributed/marketed by the “big” companies. So none of the games on steam are independents?

#7

That’s different though. Sure, Steam sells and produces games. But EA is a huge publisher which has a much different business mind than Steam. I don’t think the people at Valve are as money hungry as the people at EA.

#8

So same game. Published on steam it’s independent, but published by EA it’s not? Man…where are you buying?

#9

Publisher is independent of who makes it, EA might publish but they don’t necessarily make the game. It’s the same as steam - you get publicity, and they take commission. Game creation doesn’t have anything to do with them.

#10

Ugh, I know the game industry isn’t what it used to be. However, it seems like the user base as well is suffering from being mis-informed as well. I am not a fan of the big giant blockbuster titles myself. However, I usually love doing research on games before I buy them. Judging a game based on the company it comes from is naive. There is a lot going on, like company mergers and people using these companies for distribution. A little bit of research will reveal a lot about the origins of a game.

As for Titanfall, like all modern shooters, it seems like it was designed to be flashy. I am very weary of modern shooters because they’ve pretty much always have been flashy but lacked on single player game play. The only reason I purchase them now is if a bunch of my friends have it and we need a way to pass the time. Since I’ve been developing, I haven’t gotten another shooter since CoD:MW2. Until they give me another reason, I am probably not coming back to shooters…

#11

I believe it only counts as publisher if they take the rights to distributing the game.

#12

Thats crazy talk! Valve is a business. Not a charity. EA “supports” indie developers by allowing them a shot at getting into their store through the greenlight process, but its not out of the goodness of their hearts! If Valve felt they would make more money by not selling indie games then they would do it in a heartbeat.

Dont confuse that with being evil or bad or whatever. Its fine, its a business. Same with EA. They serve different markets with different ideas of what they want from games.

#13

Being on origin and having the logo slapped on the website seems to give that impression.

So your saying regardless of publisher, if the team that makes it label themselves as indie developers, that makes it so?

“Independent video games (commonly referred to as indie games) are video games created by individuals or small teams generally without video game publisher financial support.”

#14

Exactly. It’s how the game’s created that makes it indy or not. How it gets published/marketed/distributed doesn’t matter. Same thing for films.

#15

No, if the team that makes it is indie, then that makes it so. Collaboration with EA/Steam(Valve) is just like a business partnership, they’re not counted as part of the indie game company.

#16

Lol well the original definition of Independent Game Developer seems to be inaccurate with today’s standards.

The original idea of an indie company means that they do not rely on publishers.

#17

IMO as long as the publisher does not have any say over what goes in the game then it is independently developed. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think this is true of indie games on Steam.

Whereas if the publisher say the game needs e.g. cute critters that they can make toys out of then that is definitely not indie development.

#18

Notice the term - indie game developer. Publisher = marketing. Nothing to do with development.

#19

::slight_smile:
As a developer you have to care about the publisher and if your company doesn’t have enough money to create the game you have to do what the publisher says because he pays. If you want to add some nice features and fix some bugs before releasing it and the publisher says: “We wanna release the game”. You release it. Game development in huge companies isn’t about making “nice games” it’s about making money. That’s why they are called companies. Only a few indie developers make enough money while creating “nice games”.
That’s why new AA games are all closely the same (just average games with some nice marketing) , they aren’t made to be played for a long time because they wanna sell DLCs and new games.

#20

In how many big companies you have been worked then? Also indie niche market is stronger than ever so there are a lot more than few successs story in nice game category.