The HADOPI law has been rejected :D

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#1

Hi!

For those who don’t know this law: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_Hadopi (sorry it is in French)

This law was very dangerous for our individual rights, it was a real thread, it planned to create an authority that would be able to cut the internet connection of a customer when he has been accused of illegal downloading (peer to peer for example); this accusation would have been based on the IP address that is easily falsifiable. This law was not respecting the principle of presumption of innocence as the connection would have been cut and then you would have to prove your innocence to get it back. I’m very glad and touched. It is a wonderful day for my country, France. Long life for our freedom ;D

#2

We basically had the same law trying to get into NZ, but with the blackout movement its hopefully gone for good.

#3

Excellent news!

However, from ars technicas description, it is my understanding that during the vote a lot of nay-sayers charged in at the last minute and voted no?

Why didn’t they just vote no from the beginning of the vote?
I mean if laws in a democracy is passed by tricking someone into believing that they have a majority vote - when they dont - then the model itself is flawed. In this case, one could expect that 2/3 of the elected people should be present and voting for any law to be passed!

oh well, for now I am just happy that it was shot down - it was mind numbingly stupid to begin with!

#4

Don’t celebrate yet. They will wote on it again, and then it will pass. Then it will up to the courts to decide if the law is legal, so to speak.

#5

+++++1

this is in fact very dangerous… welcom to prohibition back

#6

Yes they will vote again the 28th of April. We have to do something! Any suggestion?

#7

Well, I think it is even worst than that… They used a trastegy base on the non-present of “yes” voting people. “People was hiding behind pilar to hide they number …” (true or not it give a really serious felling of politicians). All this to put opposition in difficulty. If it was me, I should put all of them (present or non) on the pillory. There is nothing democratic in this (even if I agree that this law is no good like this).

#8

Some demonstrations are organized against hadopi:
http://www.manifestation-contre-hadopi.com/

The European deputies voted an amendment against it:

;D Time to fight.

#9

this france or all of europe?

#10

Only in France as far as I know but the amendment concerns the whole Europe and might protect other people from bad laws like Hadopi.

#11

Rocket launchers.

#12

Lol. You played too much with my ugly game ;D I like your sense of humor.

#13

Haven’t played it at all, actually, due to my only having Java 5. But regardless, rocket launchers solve everything. :slight_smile:

#14

Too much people cannot play with it because they have only Java 1.5, between 3 and 8 % of the guys who play with it are under Mac OS, it is worth making an effort, I might add some lines in my ANT script to generate a JAR with classes compiled for Java 1.5 and load this JAR under Mac by specifying it in my JNLP file but I will do this only for the next version.

Lol if only it was so simple… bring your rocket launcher.

#15

ouch…

adopted 5 hours ago

#16

Police is allowed to install a trojan.
ISP can disconnect you for a year without court order.

#17

Yeah, but unless you’re a criminal you won’t mind having a trojan that monitors everything you do and reports back to authorities, right?
So eventually you’ll end up with a choice between monitored communication or no communication at all.

What a joke! Orwell couldn’t even dream of this when he wrote 1984!

#18

There is already a Swedish law that allows the government to scan all traffic crossing its borders.

// Json

#19

This law is not fair, it is not acceptable, we have to fight to defend our individual rights and preserve our freedom!

#20

HADOPI is dead :slight_smile:

http://www.challenges.fr/actualite/toute_lactu/20090610.OBS0087/le_conseil_constitutionnel_censure_le_pouvoir

(sry french link)

EDIT : here an english one : http://www.betanews.com/article/Constitutional-Council-strikes-down-key-portion-of-HADOPI-law/1244657497