Oracle buying Sun

It does not make me laugh, I need JOGL and I’m not alone in this case.

I want them to invest some more time in JOGL as well :smiley:

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Suns recent focus on consumer side has been awesome, especially with some of java’s biggest consumer issues being fixed and applets actually becoming usable. It would be nice if they continued this trend and not abandon the consumer jre, guess we’ll just have to wait and see what oracles plans are.

Yeah, that would be terrible if Oracle decided to end support! :o

You don’t need JOGL. It’s just a binding. LWJGL does the same but different. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but it’s not like you can’t use OpenGL anymore, as soon as one of them vanishes.

I disagree with you. I need a reliable OpenGL binding that doesn’t give often a black screen as a result on my “old” computer (AMD Sempron 2600+, ATI Radeon 9250 Pro), I took some time to reproduce this bug and it is not completely fixed. I’m sorry but I’m not interested in watching a black screen even though a monochromatic black space could be considered as an artwork. If JOGL disappeared, I couldn’t use OpenGL anymore.

Nothing bad should happen to Java. Referring to a comment in finnish news article Larry said “Java is the most important software that Oracle has ever acquired”. This english to finnish, finnish to english translation may differ from the original comment (corrupted).

[quote]Nothing bad should happen to Java. Referring to a comment in finnish news article Larry said “Java is the most important software that Oracle has ever acquired”.
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Java will be good for Oracle. Unfortunately, that doesn’t automatically mean Oracle will be good for Java.

It would be real shame if the Java VM dies for the browser. I believe it’s the best way forward for integrating “real” applications into the browser, if only they managed to modularize it and improve startup-time. Sadly, in terms for graphics, Flash is king.

i think this link hasn’t been posted yet:
http://www.oracle.com/sun/sun-faq.pdf

time will show

Got this one wrong a bit. Java crushes Flash when it comes to graphics capabilities. Even Flash devs will admit that. Flash, however, does have fantastic tools. That’s where Flash shines.

Interesting

This I didn’t know:

[quote] The Sun Solaris operating system is the leading platform for the Oracle database.
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Sounds like good news for (open)solaris - I’m still thinking of buying that Toshiba notebook with opensolaris pre-loaded

[quote]What will Oracle do with Sun’s hardware business?
Oracle plans to grow the Sun hardware business after the closing,
protecting Sun customers’ investments and ensuring the long-term
viability of Sun products.
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I guess they aren’t going to sell it to Fujitsu - if you asked me last week I wouldn’t have expected Oracle to enter that space.

It’s also interesting how vague they are about java in that faq.

i found esp this item interesting:

[quote]How is this acquisition expected to impact any existing project, deployment, or services engagements?

It is not expected that this transaction will impact any existing project, deployment or services engagement.
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(think about OpenOffice, Solaris, VirtualBox, NetBeans, MySql, JavaFX…)

to good to be true - time will show :wink:

Does anyone know what Oracle’s relationship with microsoft is?

they pretty much hate each others guts ;D

Well…

Flash is a lot faster and more stable when it comes to alpha blended images, unless you manage to set your java environment up just right with heaps of black voodoo magic that you can’t rely on your customers to do.
Plus for rapid prototyping, flash does a lot of things for you so you don’t have to worry about it. Doing a simple vector graphics importer/renderer in java is many days of development, and comes for free right out of the box in flash, with an optional bitmap caching button (right in the ide!) for speed.

Flash does suck, however. :wink:

The dirty rectangles code is seemingly random, adding/removing objects to the scenegraph can be very slow (especially in the latest version of flash), and code runs painfully slow compared to java or c.

google is dangerous.

LOL, let’s start over again :stuck_out_tongue:

goes and puts head in microwave

Google is like the autocrat in the digital world in terms of information.

It is actually pretty dangerous.

But little offtopic of course =D