OpenGL enabled on Vista!

General Discussions
#1

“News has now been leaked that Microsoft has enabled support for OpenGL to work with the Windows Vista compositing desktop, as of the most recent preview build. Previously Microsoft’s plan had been force OpenGL to be translated to Direct3D, reducing performance by 50% and locking the OpenGL version to 1.4 only.”

http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/archive/2006/02/22/537624.aspx

personally i think it was just a marketing ploy to make developers jump ship from opengl to directx, while they had planned to support ogl anyway :).

#2

Thank god! :slight_smile:

#3

Booo Hiiisss at M$ for putting us through this, and all they wanted was to have better control over display drivers.

Boo Hisss again

DP

#4

I hope you guys do realise that this was no simple engineering feat.
Running 2 different APIs on the same hardware which wasn’t built for it would require a complex solution and it’s obvious that any decent engineer would opt for the simplest solution.

People weren’t happy with the simplest solution and due to demand another solution has been introduced.

#5

There’s a bit more subtlety to it than that on the political front but yes, it’s a reasonably fiddly task I should think to get them to co-operate fully.

Cas :slight_smile:

#6

Which means that once again graphics drivers will be a major source of system crashes on Vista ;D

If only Microsoft meant something other than “we have collected the money that we extorted from the developers” when they “certified” a device driver.

#7

That was why their plan was so genius.
I have to say I’m surprised they’re backing off now… It’s pretty obvious ms wants opengl to die.

#8

Promising, and hopefully a positive result for the CAD tool vendors, who had most to lose. I wonder whether there is a go-faster option for full screen apps, which don’t need simultaneous desktop compositing.

Alan

#9

does anyone know will .net be bulid in vista? i am not a fan of .net but intrested what microsoft will create…

#10

I believe it has preinstalled .NET framework installed but version is not clear. It may be .NET1.x or .NET2.x time will tell. Quite many win2k/XP users have had it through Windows Update site already.

What I wonder most whether coming IE browsers supports new XAML UI programming model as a browser plugin/applet. It is like Mozilla XUL but with more powerfull, business logic can be done in C# language.

back to topic:
I really really wish Vista can run windowed OpenGL programs without any penalties or extension restrictions.

#11

for the record, the Windows Vista beta (x86) from MSDN does indeed have .NET 2.0 preinstalled (but, unlike XP’s .NET v2 platform, there are only 10 assemblies). read more about that here

also, for those curious about IE7, that monster is available for download: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx

that is for Beta 2, but I tried Beta 1 and it was horrendous. the entire UI was different (although I give them a plus for enabling tabbed browsing, but sheesh, I have a taskbar …)

#12

Found this blog. Yep, MS is bringing WPF/XAML applets to web browsers (WindowsPresentationFramework). And they plan releasing a mac plugin as well. This is like Flash applets, but you use XML for view and javascript/C# for programming app’s logic.
http://blogs.msdn.com/mharsh/archive/2006/03/23/559106.aspx

#13

will WPF/XAML applets have some graphic functions, and what type 2d (some basic functions?) and 3d? Becuse i heard that vista will be much more directx oriented so maybe those apps will have some 3d available tech. ? Does anyone know ii? Any one heard about what it could be done with those apps?