Nokia and Microsoft wants to compete with Apple and Google

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#1

Please note before reading this that this is my own opinion, and we might not share the same views.

Yep, that’s right!

Both have made some seriously bad attempts at joining the smartphone scene, but without any luck.
Microsoft have made the software Windows 7 Phone, and Nokia have made a wide variety of touch-phones, where only some can download applications from a market called the Ovi market, which I without knowing, guess is pretty emtpy.

After what I’ve read this new smartphone should compete with Apple’s iPhone, and Google’s Android OS.
That sounds successful doesn’t it? Really? No?

They say they will split up the work so Microsoft will make the software, and Nokia will make the hardware (what else? :P).

I only see two “small” issues with their plan. Firstly, Microsoft doesn’t make very good software, compared to other companies. Secondly, Nokia doesn’t make very good hardware compared to other companies in this field.

What do you think? I think this is probably the worst plan to dominate the smartphone market, ever!
The only thing that would make me like this would be a freaking epic product that supports Flash and Java, and it’s limited by the software.

#2

[quote=“Mads,post:1,topic:36292”]
Well, a lot of their software is not very good, but you can’t ignore that Windows (especially Windows 7 [for pc]) is one of the best os’s on the market today, the only real limitation is the hardware you’re using (unlike som other companies who censors and removes applications they don’t want their customers to use).

Won’t say anything about nokia since I haven’t used their phones since the 3330 was a new phone.

But I do agree on the smartphones, I don’t think this is a good thing to do and it will probably fail.

#3

I share your views. Microsoft is a successful crap maker. Nokia should have gone on working on Meego with Intel AND should have provided J2SE For Embedded on its N900. Microsoft and Nokia will make some crapphones together ;D Android would have been a better option than Windows Phone.

This crappy OS fails when I plug my USB key in ;D epic, isn’t it? Almost the same bugs than Vista. This is not what I call a good OS.

#4

If it doesn’t work for you, but it works for everyone else, then it’s obviously your own fault. Don’t click on “sexy_porn.exe” ;D

Vista was crap though, no argument there

#5

Hm I think Microsoft make by and large, very good software. However they’ve not quite worked out the phone thing. And they are far too late to the party now.

Cas :slight_smile:

#6

Its a shame really, Meego and QT were starting to shape up pretty nicely (as an open platform). Nokia will likely kill their support for those now.

#7

The problem with Microsoft is that they’re trying to stick their Windows OS where it’s not appropriate.

#8

Its pretty clear that in future a ton of the computing devices and tasks done on the desktop will be portable and this is a serious threat to Microsoft’s desktop dominance. They’ll push very hard to get a strong foothold in the mobile market.

#9

I’ve had a fair bit of experience with MS Access and Visual Basic for Applications. I seriously dislike Microsoft, for a number of reasons. But I will grant that the IDE for building forms and reports for database applications is stronger than, say, the NetBeans graphical interface. Visual Studio is also very well done. It’s a mixed bag, really.

They’re a lot more likely to enable C# than any sort of Java implementation, don’t you think? Maybe it depends which of the dueling MS fiefdoms has been tasked.

I was riding home on BART the other day and over half the people were staring at various phones, and it seemed like half of those were playing games. It’s a huge market, still growing. Huge opportunity lost if MS doesn’t get going there, I would think.

#10

While Nokia devices certainly had the bling back in the days, their OSs were terrible. Maybe not as bad as the ‘cheap’ Samsungs, Sagems or LGs but not far behind either.

And, well M$ speaks for itself, or?

IMHO watching them fail will be great show.

#11

On Friday after Nokia announced the deal with MS, it lost $17 billion of its share price, Ouch!

source

#12

[quote=“Captain_Awesome,post:4,topic:36292”]
No it is not my fault, the same key works fine with Windows XP, Mac OS X and Linux. I’m not the only one in this case. Vista and 7 have a lot of bugs especially in their file system implementation even though 7 has less bad performances.

#13

What bugs would that be?

#14

Just FUD. Windows NT-based OSes are rock solid.

Cas :slight_smile:

#15

Sorry but FUD is your speciality, not mine. These freezes happen with some USB keys built by EMTEC and Transcend. Some other people have the same problem here:
http://www.windows-vista-update.com/windows-vista-freezes-after-a-usb-flash-drive-is-inserted-comments.html

#16

Well, that’s not a lot of information, but I’d be willing to bet this is a faulty driver (perhaps in conjunction with multiple USB and/or plug-and-play devices creating a conflict). And issues like this are not really related to the kernel of a given OS.

#17

I don’t recall being a specialist in any of fear, uncertainty or doubt. I thought I usually gave people advice about what’s definitely working usually…?
So what’s this vendor’s broken kernel level driver got to do with the stability of Windows NT - I’m dying to know. Y’know, I bet it was those same shithead coders that wrote them that also made those ATI drivers that crash all my games on Ubuntu.

Cas :slight_smile:

#18

Thought, only thought, are you doubting yourself?
Usually, that sounds a little uncertain.
So what is it that your afraid of?

:stuck_out_tongue:

#19

Occasionally I have really shitty days where I wish Java would just DIE and think that the only useful computer ever invented was the cash dispenser. But they are rare ::slight_smile:

Cas :slight_smile:

#20

[quote]I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone.
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