Java WebStart a Rich Internet Application

The latest JDJ says that JavaWebstart-able apps are Rich Internet Applications since they can start with a browser, do you guys see it that way?

well first of all, it is pretty difficult to define what RIAs actually are.
Some say they have to be in the browser some say it doesn’t matter other say that Google Earth is THE RIA. The best (irony) definition i heard was “everything what runs in a browser and looks cool”

for me RIA is just a buzzword and nothing technology related.

If you look for applications in the browser applets are the way to go (in the java land…)
here is a very good sample app which uses applets (+jogl)+javascript interacting with the applet+plain old html:
https://iris.dev.java.net/
(but well its a sample app…)

further with Java SE 6.10 webstart apps and applets are technically almost the same (in fact there are only differences in the configuration) and can be easily transformed from one to the other (at least applet->webstart)

but to everyone
if someone could point to a RIA (doesn’t matter if its in java or not) i would really appreciate it