What risk is that? AFAIK all those security issues from last years have been related to browser plug-ins, but there’s nothing inherently unsafe about an embedded JVM. I’d say it’s safer than native code.
You’re right there’s no real incentive for Sony to put much effort in java, but I don’t think they would be against it “because it’s Java”. After all, BluRay also depends on Java.
Look, you seem to be master in this Console development. We need to ask JGO to open a section only for this and start organizing people, in a chat, like skype or Xfire. And we speak and see whats our first step. Talking here wont help much due to pessimists and trolls ( aka Xbox Fan Boys :Dhahaha joking ).
Anyway, I request that JGO please, open a section for this! We must be the java pioneers and do something about it! Would be fantastic, i can even call some college friends or maybe even some teacher would be interested in helping.What you think MATEYS ?
Heh, I wouldn’t call myself a ‘master at console development’ at all. I’d be glad to help where I can though, but my time is very limited so I’m not sure if I’d be the right person to really drive this effort to completion.
But I do think there is a clear opportunity here. Good money can be made on consoles, and Sony is actively supporting indie games development. Even on Vita, some indies have been very successful (which in itself is remarkable given its small install-base).
Microsoft is making some moves there too, but they seem to have their own specific agenda (Win8/Metro apps) where Java clearly doesn’t fit.
I’m a bit disappointed that Cas isn’t the least bit interested (or even frustrated about the whole console thing). I’m sure he has his reasons, but I think his games could be great ‘poster-boy’ games in this context. At least one good game as a proof-of-concept is really necessary in this project, in my opinion.
But I agree with you. If we’re serious about java game development we should at least make a serious effort here.
Look, you seem to be master in this Console development. We need to ask JGO to open a section only for this and start organizing people, in a chat, like skype or Xfire. And we speak and see whats our first step. Talking here wont help much due to pessimists and trolls ( aka Xbox Fan Boys :Dhahaha joking ).
Anyway, I request that JGO please, open a section for this! We must be the java pioneers and do something about it! Would be fantastic, i can even call some college friends or maybe even some teacher would be interested in helping.What you think MATEYS ?
Not much point for a section regarding java gamedev on consoles until it’s actually supported on a console (ouya doesn’t count). I don’t see any pessimists/trolls here either…
Ok, so i vote for JGO to open a forum section for this.
This isnt only for “making games”, if java get into ps4, our language will gain a lot more supporters and we will gain more sallary and we will be more vallorized.
So yeah.
Its a big goal here!
With who we need to talk to get a forum section for this? Or maybe… If JGO let, i have a freee forums account. I can open a section there and giveaway mod rights etc. We need a place to discuss this and plan!
It’s not going to make a difference unless the ps4 devs check java-gaming.org, which I’m reasonably sure they don’t. I’m not an expert in how to go about these matters, but I would come up with a reasonable argument for why java should be on ps4/future ps consoles and start a petition.
Jesus.
You dont get it, do you ?
The section is for the Project to be easier to administrate. So the members can talk about it and make it work. Its not for Fun, or to show off stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to, but I’m keeping a roof over my head now with games dev so I can’t devote time to fun or hobbies any more, ironically. And I really don’t know that many people here know just was assholes Microsoft and Sony are to work with. You really have no idea at all. It’s mind boggling. Viva la desktop!
If you really want to get in on console development… consider making something worthy of Valve’s attention, and make something for the Steambox.
Ok erikd but where do we start? If the console needs to be “jailbroken” to run a JVM, it will be only useful for homebrew projects. If we think about the JVM as a library, we can use AvianVM or RoboVM but we have no PS4 to give it a try :clue:
Heh, I wouldn’t call myself a ‘master at console development’ at all. I’d be glad to help where I can though, but my time is very limited so I’m not sure if I’d be the right person to really drive this effort to completion.
But I do think there is a clear opportunity here. Good money can be made on consoles, and Sony is actively supporting indie games development. Even on Vita, some indies have been very successful (which in itself is remarkable given its small install-base).
Microsoft is making some moves there too, but they seem to have their own specific agenda (Win8/Metro apps) where Java clearly doesn’t fit.
I’m a bit disappointed that Cas isn’t the least bit interested (or even frustrated about the whole console thing). I’m sure he has his reasons, but I think his games could be great ‘poster-boy’ games in this context. At least one good game as a proof-of-concept is really necessary in this project, in my opinion.
But I agree with you. If we’re serious about java game development we should at least make a serious effort here.
I don’t think you need a whole forum section. Probably just a thread (this one could do) and an IRC channel, then a GitHub repository when you decide what to do would suffice. A whole forum section would be a bit too much.
Also, I’m kind of with HeroesGraveDev. It seems too ambitious to me. I don’t trust that it will get Sony’s attention at all.
Not much point for a section regarding java gamedev on consoles until it’s actually supported on a console (ouya doesn’t count). I don’t see any pessimists/trolls here either…
Ok, so i vote for JGO to open a forum section for this.
This isnt only for “making games”, if java get into ps4, our language will gain a lot more supporters and we will gain more sallary and we will be more vallorized.
So yeah.
Its a big goal here!
With who we need to talk to get a forum section for this? Or maybe… If JGO let, i have a freee forums account. I can open a section there and giveaway mod rights etc. We need a place to discuss this and plan!
