Just wondering… I use the command line because I’m a teenager with limited resources. It’s free, it’s the first software to support new releases and I like it.
eclipse is free too, and it’s upt-to-date for sure
how can you survive without ctrl+space autocompletion? 
something else: notepad (testing with command line)
I know. crazy. but it works. =)
with one exception… when I profile… the only profiler I use is netbeans. because, quite simply, there is nothing better
I use notepad for almost everything. I hand-code all Java, (X)HTML, JS, and CSS code I do. javaunlimited.net was completely coded in notepad. everything from the front-end HTML to the back-end PHP/MySQL coding.
for the time alone to switch between files it’s already more productive to use an IDE but that might be me.
we have a lovely little (frendly) ide war going on at work intellj vs eclipse next to beeing outnumbered, I’m also on the eclipse side and having a hard time really.
eh, I duno. kinda depends on your organaztion I guess. for me, instead of clicking on a source tab I have to double click a .java file instead. but it’s not like my source files are all over the harddrive.
for production purposes I have in the past used an IDE for the coding but… I’ve never used a WYSIWYG IDE for anything, though… [unless you count Flash. but heh]
I recently switched from jcreator to eclipse. both are free, at least jcreator has a free version and apart from a few bugs is probably a good choice if you have a low end system.
Netbeans is good , free and easy to use unlike eclipse + the comandline is hard to setup
WYSIWYG editors, yeah… brr.
but even if you have everything in one place, you still have packages and crap you have to walk trough.
offcourse next to that you have code completion, refoactoring, debugging and as you mentioned profiling.
@harry
wat’s not easy to use about eclipse, sure finding decent plugins is a f-cking mess
UNIX and C where created in plain old assembly language… :
and that has to do with … ?
I’m comparing to most data-driven sites which are developed with high-end tools such as dreamweaver.
I use a shareware text editor called Textpad with a freeware compilation tool called Ant. Ant automates the build process but still uses the regular JDK compiler.
I’m planning to move to a regular IDE though. I want a better environment than what I have.
Textpad is nice in a number of ways though. It has an easy-to-use document selector, but I assume that most IDEs feature some sort of class selector that would be similar. It is much less visually cluttered than any IDE that I could imagine, which is nice. You just have one big typing area and a document selector instead of a bunch of semi-useless frames cluttering everything up.
You just have one big typing area and a document selector instead of a bunch of semi-useless frames
cluttering everything up.
Eclipse and Netbeans have some shortcut for maximizing the focused component (ctrl+w/m I think).
Well, I’m also using textpad (+tortoiseSVN) for all kinds of text editing and Eclipse (+subclipse) for bigger projects.
Eclipse is great all around IMO, especially for managing/working on team projects with it’s easy to use CVS integration. Any IDE with plugin capabilities, especially ones that can be made by the community as well as the company helps to stop the whole ‘reinventing of the wheel’ scenarios that come up when developing software.
In my experience, I see myself using notepad to code in certain languages, mainly web development ones, only because of built up habits ( or I want to get something coded relatively quick and not have to load a clunky, memory eating monster IDE). I used to enjoy those multi-notepad programs that allow you to pull up multiple documents at once in a desktop sort of fashion, but you can see how Eclipse is slightly more advanced when it comes to that. 
Notepad is crap on so many levels. I really cant understand why anyone is using it for anything. There are many lightweight text edtiors, which start up in a split second* and offer all basic things such as (customizable) highlighting, showing control chars, block indention, having several files open, regex search n replace, file compare, line numbers (well, duh), matching brackets, sorting, auto indention, unlimited undo…
[* Note that my machine is the slowest of the slow with its 500mhz]
Well, yea sure I also used notepad at the beginning but it gave me nothing in return for its crapness. Oh yea… 1.5-2mb less memory usage. Awesome. Seriously, there isnt a single (sensible) reason to use it.
I have attached a picture of Eclipse using fast views. Looks pretty uncluttered to me.
one time i tried to use it i just did not get it i gusse it depends what your used to i could not figure out Sun java studio creater ever
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Yea, CTRL+M maximize the source window and CTRL+W close it.
For some time I use Eclipse as primary IDE. Beneth there is only Ultra Edit 32 which gives me the ability to find/replace in multiple files at once.
eh, I duno. kinda depends on your organaztion I guess. for me, instead of clicking on a source tab I have to double click a .java file instead. but it’s not like my source files are all over the harddrive.
hmm, with IDEs you can click on a class name in the sourcecode of another and file and it opens the right class or you can click on symbols in the glutter to jump to classes that override a method or you can click on a compilation error and it opens the errornous file and jumps to the line number etc etc.
Not to mention that I work with project containing up to 300 classes…
The combination of notepad and commandline is just a way to waste your time in a leet way and to make sure you never get it done in time 
Not to mention that I work with project containing up to 300 classes…
Last project I worked on had over 1400 classes. Manage that with notepad. 
Notepad is crap on so many levels. I really cant understand why anyone is using it for anything. There are many lightweight text edtiors, which start up in a split second* and offer all basic things such as (customizable) highlighting, showing control chars, block indention, having several files open, regex search n replace, file compare, line numbers (well, duh), matching brackets, sorting, auto indention, unlimited undo…
not everyone needs all of that. I like to be in control of everything. (including my indentations). and notepad does have line numbers, btw (ctrl+g). I duno, I just don’t NEED syntax highlighting, etc., so I don’t bother. ymmv
The combination of notepad and commandline is just a way to waste your time in a leet way and to make sure you never get it done in time
maybe for you. but I’m quite successful at what I do 
Last project I worked on had over 1400 classes. Manage that with notepad.
I don’t manage it with notepad, I manage it with Windows Explorer. My largest project was 1200 classes. and I got it done in less than 6 months time (for work, so the pay was a motivation of course ;))