GDC 2005 Java Game Demo Reel!

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#1

In the interest of showing off some of the best code that this most excellent community has developed, I present to you the official GDC 2005 Java game demo reel!

http://mediacast.sun.com/share/ChrisM/GDC_2005_Demo2..mpg

Thanks for everything you guys (and gals) do. You continue to impress me and I am really proud of the community as a whole. Amazing to see what happens when a group of enthusiasts get together!

Enjoy!

-Chris

P.S. This will run in a looping demo in our booth. It took me 2 1/2 days to get the whole thing done and I think it came out pretty well :slight_smile:

#2

Wow, a LOT of cool stuff.

plots plans to be on GDC 2006 game demo reel

#3

Shame mine and per’s PhysicsSystem isn’t on there… But MarbleFun and Dirt are on there! Awsome!

Some really cool stuff, nice movie, very well done

DP

#4

Awesome :smiley:

#5

Ace! ;D

Really nice impact, and I got a few new links to check out. :slight_smile:

I saw Chrome in there which is one of the few games that I knew of as a game, before I knew it was a JAVA game :slight_smile: Is there any reason that Xpand Rally isn’t in there? Same developer and visually it is quite possibly the best looking java game out there, and would go well with the beat of the demo.

http://xpandrally.com/en/

Note: I am not connected in any way to the guys who made the games :slight_smile: Just interested in how much of those games really are Java. Anybody knows?

#6

Chrome is not a java game, IIRC. It just uses java as an embedded scripting language.

That is like calling MS Word a “commercial wordprocessor written in Visual Basic” (because word embeds VB for macros etc). i.e. it’s misleading to the point of being practically (although not literally) an outright lie.

You’ll note that the Sun guys are careful to describe Chrome as “a java-scripted” or “java-powered via scripts” or similar in all public statements.

There’s clearly nothing wrong with including it in the video - unless the video started with the text “look at these java games” - because it’s traditional for such videos to include “anything associated with the brand being promoted”.

However, personally, IMHO, I think it would have had more impact if Chrome hadn’t been included, and the opening did indeed spell out, literally: these games are written entirely in java. That would get more out of the significant number of people who will glance at it and think “yeah, but the 3D engines are all C, just being called via hooks” and other such naysaying. It’s fine, it’s just it would have bene easier for us to re-use as propaganda ;D.

/me wishes JGFv3 were live and kicking, rather than live and quiet, in time for GDC :frowning:

#7

Yeah, the same hoo-hah occurred with Il2-Sturmovik, with some people proclaiming it was entirely written in Java, when in fact only a small proportion was.

#8

In all fairness - Chrome does contains a significant amount of java code. The “code.pak” is actually a jar file with five megs of (uncompressed) classes consisting of world model objects, behaviors, and some low-level code.

#9

Five megs is sure something. Also found this:

[quote]We are pleased to inform, that Chrome game received a prestigious Duke’s Choice Award granted by the Java Leadership Team of Sun Microsystems.
Among the Java Leadership Team are also Scott McNealy and James Gosling, the creators of Java language.
The award is granted for the best and the most innovative product using the Java technology.
Chrome has been chosen from many products and projects from the entire globe, acknowledging the high quality of the Techland’s product. Duke’s Choice Award for Chrome will be officially presented at the JavaOne conference in San Francisco, between June 28th and July 1st.
[/quote]
Would hope that it is an award for something more than just scripting.

#10

Great demo :slight_smile:

#11

From what I have read on their technology, they use Java entirely for the game logic and have a binding to a low level rendering engine. So it’s more Java then not.

#12

I especially like the middle part… ;D

#13

I never understood why the GTG dislikes FlyingGuns so much. I admit its not the best looking game ever but still could stand the average level of quality in the video.

FG maybe is the most Sun-friendly, Java-conformant game at all for it really focuses on using standard Java technology (like Java3D, which sometimes isn’t easy) and has that strong technology and networking focus the company ‘Sun’ stands for.

I feel so unloved… :-[

#14

Boy, java games sure are starting to look impressive. =) Good work, people! =D

[I almost pointed out that “http://www.foo.bar” is a malformed url, but checked the rfc first and noticed that the url-path really is optional in http urls if the path is empty. :D]

#15

[quote]I never understood why the GTG dislikes FlyingGuns so much. I admit its not the best looking game ever but still could stand the average level of quality in the video.

FG maybe is the most Sun-friendly, Java-conformant game at all for it really focuses on using standard Java technology (like Java3D, which sometimes isn’t easy) and has that strong technology and networking focus the company ‘Sun’ stands for.

I feel so unloved… :-[
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I feel for you. FG really hasn’t gotten the attention it deserves. I think that it is a little bit hard to start/get into for some ppl. It is a bit hard to control and just find the enemies and to be an ace. Maybe if it had more blast static object, fly under briges and that sort of high impact fast paced stuff it would have gone great with the pace of the demo (and been more loved by the younger crowd).

Nevertheless, it is a truly great display of java gaming and should have been in the demo! It is a very cool video Chris, but you slipped up a bit :wink:

Is there a screenshot from FG for a fraction of a sec at the end of the video, or is that another game?

#16

Yes. A very very very very ancient one…

#17

I must admit that FG was a very good game, even if it was very hard to play ;D It was nicely done and well animated… A little video shoot of the game would have been cool. But there are a lot of game that don’t get this chance too (Alien Flux for example, there are just some screenies, no gameplay movie).

Well, I think Chris was time limited and couldn’t put all the great java games all guys here have made :wink: At least there’s a Java video at GDC !

Anyway, that’s a cool video !

Chman

#18

Very Impressive… I’ll strive for next Year ;D

#19

[quote]I never understood why the GTG dislikes FlyingGuns so much. I admit its not the best looking game ever but still could stand the average level of quality in the video.

FG maybe is the most Sun-friendly, Java-conformant game at all for it really focuses on using standard Java technology (like Java3D, which sometimes isn’t easy) and has that strong technology and networking focus the company ‘Sun’ stands for.

I feel so unloved… :-[
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Auugh…actually…I had problems getting the game to run :frowning: Resinatlled J3D and Different versions of Java but no luck :frowning: However! You will notice that I did put in a screenshot at the end!

-Chris

P.S. You know the GTG has “much love” for the Herk :slight_smile:

#20

Strange … normally at least the WebStart version runs highly reliable. No J3D needs to be installed, FG has one on board (prooving the abilities of Suns WebStart extension stuff)…