Full Visual Studio for free

Microsoft just announced that they are releasing a “community edition” of Visual Studio. It is basically full Visual Studio Standard for free for both commercial and non-commercial use for small teams.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/12/microsoft-makes-visual-studio-free-for-small-teams/

That’s decent being fair, VS is terrible stand alone though. You need to fire in half a dozen plugins to get the smooth work flow you can get in say, Eclipse.

Depends on what you’re doing with either. Both are excellent.

No it doesn’t. VS is terrible, a crime against programmers.

Okay…what’s a better IDE for native code, say C or C++? Most people that don’t like VS seems to have only done C#. Eclipse is a pile of junk for debugging in any language. I like Eclipse quite a bit but that’s its major weak point…and being rather slow at times.

Used it mostly for C# admittedly, but also C++. VS does not compare in any way to IntelliJ.

Hmm what issues do you have with the debugger in Eclipse, Roquen? I’ve found it rather useful on the rarish occasions I have to use it. The whole IDE could do with speeding up a bit but I suppose that’s a feature of overengineering.

I think VS is a reasonable C++ IDE but I’ve never attempted to make anything bigger than a dll in C++. By comparison I’ve use Eclipse for C++ as well and it seems similar, just about 5x slower at everyday things (like, er, typing).

Cas :slight_smile:

I debug in Eclipse all the time. Never had a problem with it. You can even do remote hot code replacement to avoid making a new deployment to a server just try a slight difference in a method.

Displaying watch values in the format that I want for each. And mainly conditional breaks on reads and/or writes.

Ah, I suppose I don’t really do either of those things.

Cas :slight_smile:

I found VS to be rather slow. Also since i also do coding on linux, might as well just use code::blocks

I don’t mind using VS, in fact I kind of like it. Once I got all of my shortcuts set up plus resharper, I almost like it as much as IntelliJ.

An interesting question would be if: http://android-plus-plus.com/ works or will work with the community edition.

Anyways, for C# development I have been using SharpDevelop for most of this year. It is both free and pretty.

Ive only ever really used eclipse and VS , mainly because you install it and there you are , IDE setup Visual studio functions with a lot of languages with built in compilers for all , I think I enjoy it just due to the conveience of it. Plus ive never found the need to find a different IDE because ive never used so many features , I dont have the need to do that. I will say though VS is good for debugging values especially when you put in a break point , and it stops on runtime at the point of the error giving all associated values which is just perfect for debugging the issue.

So just like every other debugger?

Yeah am I missing something here? Is that not what every other debugger does?

Also the more I use VS the more comfortable I get with it. I do however have ReSharper installed which adds a lot that is missing from the ide, mostly for productivity and flow.

It is bulky though and MS only let you install it on the os drive, zapping 10gb of my 60gb ssd. It would be nice if you got to pick what languages you want to install for.

Handy tip: learn about NTFS junction points.

Cas :slight_smile:

FYI: they are like unix/linux hardlinks & symlinks, but then needlessly complex. :point:

Junction Link Magic might make things simpler.

Cas :slight_smile: