Defending Java over a developer's decision

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#1

I’m developing a small game ( Don’t know what it is, just laying out a basic framework. Have any ideas Cas? :slight_smile: ) on Beanshell using LWJGL.
It works perfectly, apart from the fact you can’t do anything but view a blank screen.

Anyhow if this game got attention and was used as a tool by the “Java is slow” group, would cause resentment towards me by the Java community?
I’ve noticed at times people tend to attack developers who’ve made a mistake or done something wrong and it is used to reflect on Java itself.
Javalobby(a great site btw) has had posts that attack a developer’s competence regarding decisions which are seen as poor in the eyes of others.

I realise that being vain is a silly thing but can something like this really hurt Java?

#2

Only if you hold it up as an example, or claim java is the culprit not your code.

Otherwise, people will dismiss a slow game as the author’s fault :slight_smile:

#3

Stop worrying about this, and make your game.

No matter what happens with it, you will be better for the experience.

#4

Beanshell is slow. Java isnt.

#5

Besides, it all depends on whether it actually does turn out to be slow doesn’t it?

Cas :slight_smile:

#6

Well, with beanshell its like… two small for loops… 30fps. Oops.

Its about 200-400 times slower than java. Its by far the slowest scripting option I know (for java). Apart from that its pretty great. Heh.

#7

I am sure it will be used as “proof” by the “Java is slow” crowd.

#8

java will be mainstream by the time we realise that we shouldn’t care about the java-is-slow crowd. Even if java would be a factory 10 faster then anything out there they’ll still think java is slow, but then they are simply ignored quicker.

#9

Good news, I’ve scrapped doing my work purely under Beanshell, not because it’s slow but because it’s counter productive.
I am however mixing Java and using Beanshell scripts to load in entities and such.
I feel more productive when using Beanshell to do scripting and Java for the main engine with many abstractions.

#10

Sounds like a plan.

I’m finishing up a simple freeware RPG written in Java with Beanshell scripts for the npcs. So I’m doing pretty much the same thing.