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While its true, its seems like these people aren’t considering the choice of: write once and port.
Of course, I dont know how well that works outside of java, but with libgdx coming up with iOS port, I’m sure I will release all games on both platforms…
Also I gotta say, reason why I and many other people pirate games on Android is also: Credit card.
You can ONLY buy with a credit card… in europe, its just not that common.
[quote]A price-tag of one dollar is passive smoking. You’re killing people around you, for your own short-term benefit
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It’s called capitalism, bitches, look it up. You think you’re hot elite shit because you can make colored blobs on the screen beep? Seems someone else can do the same and practically give it away. If you aren’t justifying a higher price by recapitalizing the extra profits into making a better game, you don’t deserve to sell it for more.
The rest of his post is really beneath contempt. “Freedom from choice” indeed. The Android Problem exists precisely because people choose Android. Go ahead and boycott Android, cause all those moochers and leeches to wander lost in the wilderness from your withheld productivity, mumbling “Who is John Galt” when they notice the empty store in Play. Or gosh, maybe that won’t happen after all.
There is also something related to the credit card problem:
One way to effectively fight piracy, is to make the legal way more convenient than the illegal way.
I think Steam proved this.
Hm, I think you’re (@sproingie) missing what he’s saying in that article. I do agree that the existence of closed markets selling games for a buck is actually devaluing software in other markets as I’ve got several years of data to point at it; however I’m not complaining because, being a capitalist, I’m all right Jack, my shit’s on Steam. If you can’t beat 'em join 'em, which is fine, provided they’ll let you in, and therein lies another can of worms.
What he is saying though is that piracy is utterly rampant on Android by design, and he is exactly right. The same game at the same price mysteriously makes less than 1% of the same revenue that it makes on iOS. Turns out the chief reason is because it’s trivial - totally trivial - to sideload apps on Android. And this is exactly why I’ve sat on my Android code for a year and done bugger all with it, because I can’t be bothered with a free-to-play model (yet, anyway).
I do understand - someone wise correct me - that Jelly Bean finally introduces proper encrypted DRM for .apk files delivered through the Play Store which makes an .apk only decryptable by the OS using the user’s credentials or somesuch bollocks. Thus removing piracy beyond the reaches of anyone not into rooting their phones, i.e. nearly everyone.
Cas 
Wait, people steal software? :o What ever will we do!
Pricing apps too low really is lame, but with exposure to hundreds of millions of people, apps can be priced low and successful apps still make money. As sproingie described, there is no stopping it. As a result there are tons of quick to market, shitty apps. It sucks, and of course it would be better if it were easier to make tons of money for building high quality software.
I agree that closed is better for business. This shouldn’t be some big surprise that we are just now coming to realize. Does that mean Android should be closed? Hell no, IMO. I do wish they made it harder for piracy, exposing more to the app so checks can be placed inside the app, making it much harder to strip.
Go build apps for iOS if making the money is of utmost importance. Note it isn’t all gravy over there either, as you have to complete your app 100% and then hope it gets put in the store.
None of it matters, really. Be smart, design around it. Build an online game where piracy has much less effect. I know I’m being a romantic, but I believe if you build something great that you can ultimately succeed, especially with a little forethought about the market.
@princec, re: JellyBean, a tool will be made to strip the encryption and the app placed in an alternate market where it is widely available and can be side loaded on to stock devices.
Hm Jellybean still useless then in that regard. Unless the OS itself refused to install unencrypted apks it’s never gonna fly.
Back to wondering how to make money from free-to-play on Android then. Bah.
Cas
I pirated every game on Android that wasnt free - I dont know, like 20.
I really wanted to buy a few, but since I have no credit card, I had no choice.
Guy must be American apparently scottish, he said to me “You don’t know anyone who owns a credit card? What age are you? I don’t know anyone who doesn’t.”
Also a lot of young people are customers - people from age 12-22 are definitely very interested in games, but certainly dont have a credit card, not even in USA, or so I hope.
You are ruling them out entirely.
Even the Dark Knight Rises was for ages 12 and up, for a reason…
Er, how do you buy anything at all on the internet then?
Cas
I got my Visa card when I was 14 I think. Did I mention I live in Sweden? xD
All Paypal.
How is that even possible ? Which bank gives you a credit card if you dont have a fulltime job ?
You cant even have a full bank account at 14 xD
I actually agree with the author that piracy is a huge problem on Android. However, it’s even easier to pirate PC games than Android ones, but for some reason – despite dire predictions year after year – the software industry has stubbornly failed to be killed off because of it.
Then of course there’s Gemmell’s strawman-punching against nerds, that’s always a classic rhetorical move. My mom’s vision isn’t very good, she wanted a bigger font in her app, so I guess that makes her a member of the neckbeard pocket-protecter set. The imperious attitude just goes on and on, til the end where I really am hoping the door hits him on the ass on his way out.
Tone matters.
Eh, I have a feeling you aren’t trying as hard as you could be. Go to the bank and open an account and get a debit card that says VISA on it. You can use it just like a credit card without the need for a bank to trust you with actual credit. When you buy something with a debit card, the money comes out of your checking account.
Well yeah, now because of Google Play / Wallet, I made a new account with a different bank, since my bank doesnt offer prepaid credit cards and now I have one.
But my normal bank card is a german EC card - wiki/Electronic_cash
These are only ATM cards. You can use them to pay in a store - but these are not credit cards
Because of paying the Googly Play fee, I literally asked everyone and their mom if they had a credit card. Best case was “well I think I have some uncle who might…”
Even a 45 year old person who used to work in a bank no less, and now has his own business - and he doesnt have one.
What about ordinary debit cards? How do people buy things in shops in Europe? Still carrying around piles of irritating change and wallets stuffed full of notes?
Cas
I bought stuff off Play (when it was called Android Market) all the time with a debit card. Possible they might not be sufficient for a developer account, but I suspect even that’s not the case.
Like I said you can use EC cards in shops.
Never heard of any person in germany even mentioning debit cards - there is an old term “Scheckkarte” / “cheque card” but I haven’t heard or seen those since like 1995.
Edit: Had to read it up. All EC cards are “Maestro” cards, and apparently all Maestro cards are in fact debit cards. However you cant use them as a credit card for online things, when a credit card is required and stuff.
But yea, years ago I worked at a GameStop and at a cinema. People who pay using anything other than cash is rare, by rare I would guess like 3-12%. No one ever payed with a credit card. I would have remembered… the cash register had a button for it, which I never used.
But in all my time I saw one pay with a VISA…
And all these people actually have smartphones, which are in most cases android.
So my point stands.
I’m pretty sure few people would run out and buy a credit card to pay for android games…
Ironically I am the guy who never has cash, and I always borrow it from friends.
The amount of places in which you cannot pay any other way than cash are overwhelming.
Mc Donalds only recently got EC checkout devices.
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I didn’t have a credit card for a long time. When I tried to have one issued, it was the start of the crisis here in Greece and I was surprised to find out that my request was denied. And I had above average income at the time. Nowadays, it’s even harder of course and the credit limits are a joke. Luckily all banks have converted their debit cards to Visa/Mastercard/etc and you can use them virtually anywhere.
They’re a bit annoying though, you can’t use monthly payment plans and they have a low-ish amount-per-transaction limit for security reasons. For example I couldn’t order my big-ass TV last year and had to use a friend’s credit card. For games, groceries and such they’re great of course.
And in some mysterious way this isn’t a problem on ios. Damn they even require the credit card just to get access to market.
Well I wasn’t sure about iOS, since I have no experience there.
So I guess that is no point against Android alone then, but its still a huge problem, at least here.
Granted, people who own an iphone are likely to be wealthy…