Carmack is trying Java, again

A lot of people made better engines and i would say games than anything JC did, but his games sold and the others didn’t. Thats the main difference.

What better engine? Keep in mind FPS engine, because otherwise it’s not apples to apples. There was nothing better then the Quake or the Quake 3 engine (at the time they were created), that I know of.

I would agree that the HL2 engine is better then the Doom 3 engine, but only because of it’s incredible physics model.

If we reduce a game engine to one of its features (in JC case graphics) im sure we will find many game engines that were the best at a particular feature at a certain time. JC was not the only one in this situation but he did excelled in optimizing the most critical features to sell games. Im afraid this is what most people don’t realize and this is what the guy was talking about when he compared games to porno in a pictoric way of course.

Well, you said there were better engines, but you didn’t name any.

I wasn’t just thinking about graphics, I was thinking about the whole thing.

Quake 3 engine for example:

  • Incredible rendering engine - best FPS to vert/texture ratio - BSP from the ground up
  • Supported wide variety of HW (Open GL …woot :slight_smile: )
  • Very good network code supporting up-to 64 players
  • Great moding features - became foundation for MANY other games
  • Extremely configruable/tunable with over a hundred options for everything from physics to network frames
  • Fluid and responsive control system allowing “tricks”
  • Powerful scripting capabilities
  • Scriptable shaders
  • Advanced light map capabilities

So yes, it was pretty, but it was alot more then that. It’s features reigned supreme until the Halo engine was released for the X-box.

really? I kinda liked the whole moleculecular designed Unreal Tournament.

so did a lot of young ppl who wanted to mess about with game programming, considering the scripting sytax beeing more towards java then anything else.

Well it is finally released!
http://www.jamdat.com/JamdatWeb/Catalog/US/en/game/mobile/ProductDetailOverviewView/product-24342?cid=BAC-UX1591603791&a=160x600sky
And in the gamedev forums the trolls are already all over it and saying how much java sucks.

Doom … RPG ???

Holy crap !! Its a turn-base doom (like in Bards Tale turn-base).

Carmack has balls.

Check out the review here from where that quote came:

He’s got buissiness sense. Very few mobiles have the CPU needed to run a proper 3d game, and none of them have a good enough set of buttons to support any kind of twitch gaming (especially Doom games, which require more buttons).

He is late. There is already roguelike game with this theme.

Not late at all. He will sell a shedload because of the Doom brand. Stroke of genius.

Cas :slight_smile: