I just made a post on JavaLobby re. a (very small) discussion about Sun become a “contributing member” to Blu-Ray and the likelihood of the standard advocating Java technology.
My feeling is this bodes well for Java games if next gen. consoles switch to Blu-Ray, as they should all then ship with a JRE.
What do other people think?
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PIty it’s javalobby though. World’s worst forum GUI? 
This appears to suggest that IBM’s Cell chip, to be found at the heart of the PS3, is going to look a bit like a hardware JVM. Given that it’s IBM it may even look exactly like a hardware JVM. That would be pretty cool.
C’mon guys. There’s exactly 2 sentences in that article that reference Java:
[quote]Sun announced today that it has become a contributing member to the Blu-ray Disk Association, and that Java technology will play a key roll in providing interactive content that will revolutionize home entertainment.
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[quote]Java technology will play a key part in Blu-ray, and will allow Blu-ray content vendors to take interactive high definition video to revolutionary levels not possible with DVD disks.
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When read carefully it’s stated that Java is only an enabling technology that would allow the Blu-ray format, and accompanying content, to reach “revolutionary levels”. I think that’s waaaay to ambiguous to even strongly imply that a fully implemented JVM and JRE will be present on the device. One replying comment to the article just takes these passing remarks way too far, when they say:
[quote] This is awesome.
Here’s what I’m imagining:
The future is indeed bright.
The crush comes at:
Better get in quick. 
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Like he says, here’s what he’s “imagining”.
[quote]C’mon guys. There’s exactly 2 sentences in that article that reference Java:
Sun announced today that it has become a contributing member to the Blu-ray Disk Association, and that Java technology will play a key roll in providing interactive content that will revolutionize home entertainment.
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Java technology will play a key part in Blu-ray, and will allow Blu-ray content vendors to take interactive high definition video to revolutionary levels not possible with DVD disks. .
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Oh my god! I hope they don’t pull out another CD-I
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Knowing IBM, they will try to use java heavily, but … in ways that mean there is absolutely 0 benefit to people wanting to run a JVM on PS3 or any other device</personal guess>
IBM’s big on reusing tech in interesting ways, but not big on making that re-use open to all who could benefit from it: they’re more into “it was used to solve problem X, not Y, even if Y could build upon this”.
Sorry to be pessimistic…
(I may be missing something in the news releases, but…) please explain the connection between “hardware device that uses a JVM to do it’s internal logic” and “consumer device which ships with a system-level JVM”?
AFAICS they are continents or even galaxies apart…
You need, for a start, to check the difference between J2SE and the embedded JVM interpreter. The gulf is potentially larger than the difference between coding in java and coding in assembler.
[quote]Like he says, here’s what he’s “imagining”.
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Hmmm… so many criticisms. :-/
You’re all right, of course: the link is extremely tenuous, and the dream that Java will be deployed on consoles is more than likely exactly that - a dream.
But I’m not in a position to do any more than dream, except maybe to go learn OpenGL for C++…
So dreaming it is! ;D