jcreator is quite nice and simple, i found it rather buggy and inconsistent after a while though. I use eclipse now, of course ;D
I have to buy a new PC if I want to use it without problem… and to be true I prefer working/developping on old workstation to ensure portability.
NB: nothing related but nowadays with all this lack of quality in software, soon we will need a 4GHz 8*core to run a simple notepad…
Come on. The resource requirements for modern software also results from users expecting before impossible features and comfort. also today it’s quite common to handle huge codebases and binary resources in IDEs.
Going by your specs you should have no problem running Eclipse; I was fine on a 700Mhz PIII with 256MB Ram and using the Together Eclipse plugin.
this is only business … only business… to always buy more powefull GC and computer… I dream when I remenber wolfenstein 3D the first real 3D FPS, running on a 80286 33Mhz at about 30 fps without any 3D cards…, nowadays only productivity is important… new movies sucks, new music sucks and finally new software …
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I’ve used Eclipse on a P2 266MHz Laptop with 128Mb. It still worked adequately (although it took a long time to start). This was in the version 2 days.
Nope, the autocomplete in Eclipse sucks. An example: Say we have an object “fred”. Type fred, followed by a full stop. The autocomplete pops up. Type the first few chars of the member you want, then say you make a mistake and hit backspace. You lose the lot, and have to delete what you’ve typed back to “fred” and start again.
I suppose I might be unique here in that I’m not bothered about refactoring, forms, guis and whatnot - I just want something to help me write terse, tight code quickly without having to constantly have to look up member names and so on. And when things go wrong I want a debugger which lets me quickly get to the root of the problem, quickly inspect variables, objects and so on. Currently with the state of Java IDEs at the moment I’m not getting this.
Or maybe their faults unfold when you have several large projects over several platforms and a couple of hundred targets 
I think a dual-core with a gig of ram should be enough for a glorified text editor 
Yeah I’ve installed it but yet to use it enough to form an opinion.
Ah, you use autocomplete in a completely different way to me. I always use Ctrl-Space to bring up lists of suggestions, and I never let it insert the “only” choice automatically either.
Cas 
huh? if you make a mistake and hit backspace you delete one character, nothing disappears (at least on my eclipse, but it’s default behavior)
Same here. Auto completion works exactly as I expect it to work. I found Eclipse to be especially clever to bring up the most likely option to the top of the list, almost as if it can read my mind
I was refering to Visual Studio when I said I hope it’s a joke
Actually that’s exactly what java IDEs do for me. I have not used eclipse very often, because I think it sucks, but with Netbeans and especially Idea I get exactly this. Tons of productivity improvements and an easy intuitive debugger. Can’t think of eclipse being that much behind…
Can’t say so and this description pretty much describes my working environment.
I have 2G, but also host a DB and an appserver on my dev machine.
That’s weird, it happens to me on both PC and Mac, as far back as I can remember. I don’t think I’ve changed any options - especially not on both machines. I must admit I haven’t tried Cas’ ctrl+space way of doing things - I’ll give that a spin now
Ah, just had another go.
Type fred, dot.
Start typing the member name, then type something that it can’t match. Popup disappears, delete what you’ve typed and try again.
Really annoying!
Type [Ctrl+Break] and it will bring up auto complete
Ah yes! Typing ctrl+space allows you to carry on where you left off! ;D
Going to have to find something else to swear at now :-X
also you shouldn’t keep on typing anyways, what’s wrong with pressing
95% of the time two letters suffice followed by a CTRL+SPACE (perhaps 2 ARROW_DOWN) and hitting enter.
you can even improve it by filtering packages.
basically you press 5 times (average) yours keyborads… so it makes typing words that are less than 5 letters it wont help also you have to lookat your mini-window wich requiere some time
and won’t hurt niether and thats 5 times max 8) (ok ok 4 keys avg. big deal :P)
besides I use hardware of this time and age, I can ensure you with that with a core 2 duo 1.66 with 2 gb memory it pops up pretty fast, not that I had problems with my old laptop but then again my old laptop seems to have better specs then you guys workstations.
besides the more you use it the ‘hotter’ the spot becomes, the faster it gets optimised ;D
I do suppose it comes to your nameing conventions and typing speed, in my particular case both favor the Ctrl+space way(long names and slow(more important clumpsy) typing)
True enough, but using the autocomplete does guarantee that you’ll make no typos with your “keyborad”
CTRL+SPACE is for poor fools who got corrupted by Microsoft’s stupidity.
Real men use TAB - one fewer keypress :P.