Who's got Vista yet?

Just too bad Linux isn’t anywhere close to being a good desktop user solution. It’s in the same place as it was 7 years ago, no change.

I can’t believe Mac Os X is the only other alternative for a desktop enviroment for computers in general!!

A market for a Windows alternative for PC’s is huge.

I wouldn’t count out OS X. I’m seeing significantly more people using Macs today than I was just 5 years ago. Just to throw out multiple cases, at my former high school, only a band of 5 or so people in the whole school used Macs. Today, more than half the students use them, and it’s by their own volition. This is for a school with about 500 students.

At the university, just 3 years ago, I didn’t see all too many Macs, but starting last year when they switched over to Intel, everybody started switching over, and I’d estimate that a good quarter of the people use them now. Don’t count out OS X because it’s really making strides, at least in the consumer space.

wtf have they done to windows file sharing in Vista :-\

Copying a 4gig dvd, across 100mbit/s ethernet (shared by only 3 computers)… I’m getting an eta of 14hours 0_o
I can download 4gig over my adsl line faster than that!!!

4gig~=32000mbits,
32000/(60*100) ~= 6minutes

6minutes != 14hours.

M$ networking is realy inefficient, I know… but 158 times slower!!! sigh

I think you’d get ~80kb/s sending one byte per packet ;D

Dear god, save me.

I moved a DVD drive over to my machine, so I could install the contents of this particular DVD. (I have a dodgy DVD-RW in my machine, that has a most irritating habit of failing to read many DVDs that use stupid copy protection systems). Anyhow, I moved over the DVD drive, cables correct, jumper correct (ide master) - reboot - bios detects drive perfectly fine. Vista fails to boot - No error, just a freeze 'black screen of death'. Reboot again, same. Take the DVD out of the drive, and reboot again. Vista boots up fine!.... but.... Vista detects the new DVD drive, installs a specific driver?! and prompts that a reboot is necessary?!?!??!?!?!?! I ignore the request for a reboot (hell, I've never needed to reboot in XP, simply because I added a new generic IDE device). Try to open 'My Computer' Explorer stops responding. Try to open IE, it also stops responding >_> Try to shutdown.... Vista locks up on the 'shutting down' screen. Reboot. Vista starts up - put DVD into drive - open up 'My Computer', open up the DVD folder.....DVD drive spins up..... and 'My Computer' stops responding.

sigh
This is a DVD drive & DVD that I know work absolutely perfect when used in XP.
Now I understand Vista might be trying to be abit more clever than XP etc etc, and failing because of some driver bug or something…but…
When things do go wrong, I do not want a ‘black screen of death on boot-up’…
Nor do I want Explorer to stop responding…
I want some god damn error feed-back! Some mechanism by which I can use logic to determine the cause; and solution to the problem!

Looks like Vista is a total pain :smiley:

I disagree… I use it for almost 6 years as of now, and it is by no means immutable if compared to what it was back then. I have seen (i.e used) Vista for a few hours, and I didn’t see a reason for me to migrate. Plain ol’ Ubuntu is the choice of my heart :slight_smile:

But I acknowledge that, for the average computer user (i.e, the one who is not a programmer =), Linux can be a PITA - specially considering that the very thing the ‘average computer user’ lacks, besides knowledge, is patience. And who can blame them for that? So I agree that Linux could show a lot more progress, specially where hardware and drivers are concerned.

I have vista…

lol

barl or w/e it’s called fades the difference away between linux osx and windows eyecandy wise, it other stuff that bugs me on the linux desktop, much more subtle tings.

but are the more ‘exciting features’ of vista not other stuff like http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/31/windows-vista-superfetch-and-readyboostanalyzed/page5.html eating away eclipse and jvm startup time sounds pritty great to me. though I expect somethign like this from the open source community not from microsoft.

It’s called Beryl.

I too noticed that some apps launched much quicker on Vista than they did on XP. Office 2007 was one of those apps and loaded about 4 times as quickly (2 second vs. 8 seconds). My own app, StencylWorks also made a surprising gain too by being able to load up cold in half the time it took in XP. (1 second vs. 2 seconds)

Where’d you get the transparent vista windows? I can’t find any skins that do that =\

Tried to collect my email from my hotmail account today…I was certainly struck by the “Wow!” (“M$ are such a bunch of f$%^tards”) factor.

Apparently M$ felt that with a new operating system, they needed to have a new email client…
So, gone is Outlook Express (apparently forever), and replaced with “Windows Mail”.

According to the blurb “Windows Mail” has a whole host of new features… unfortunately none of them happen to be the feature critical to collection of hotmail - HTTP support!
I bet that 99% of Outlook Express users used it solely for collecting their hotmail - for the replacement to not support this vital feature seems completely insane!!!?!??!

Oh well, time to migrate to Thunderbird.
While I’m at it I suppose I might as well dump IE and go back to Firefox… by their own incompetence M$ lose ownership of another users browser.

Incidentally, I found a 100% reproducible crash bug that was in Outlook Express (under XP),
and is now present in Vistas “Windows Mail”. So much for it being a “new product”

  1. Having never before launched “Windows Mail” or Outlook Express, click a mail link in IE.
  2. “Windows Mail” / Outlook Express will launch into the “Create an Account” dialog sequence.
  3. Without closing the dialog, launch a new seperate instance of “Windows Mail” / Outlook Express from the start menu shortcut. (It will also launch into the “Create an Account” dialog sequence.)
  4. go back to the dialog that was triggered by step 1).
  5. Click cancel, and then confirm that you want to exit without creating an account.
  6. Watch and laugh as the Mail instance spawned in step 3) crashes with a null pointer :smiley:

Yup…

Yup yup yup…

Thunderbird was reported deleting whole email-archives when it stumbled upon non-unique email-IDs from the mail-server.