[Slick2D] Extreme Lagging

Not only was it an off-by-one error, but you got the wrong units too. ;D

Also note that most programmers will consider HTML more like programming than GameMaker, so it’s probably better to avoid the confusion. (And if you don’t understand that, programmers despise HTML being called programming)

Edit: The Java experience is not limited to game programming, but ‘lost years’ don’t usually count.

Perhaps, but it’s dubious if ‘tiny bits’ count as ‘experience.’

I know I fiddled with HTML and JavaScript off and on when I first started out, but I’ll be dammed if it meant anything.

Well if you use gamemakers language GML its pretty much like a beginner python. So, idk if thats worth anything but ya.

Tiny bits as in entire TheNewBoston beginner java playlist and a little bit of text adventures here and there. So, really it means pretty much nothing.

@HerosGraveDev Ya i guess your right. My experience levels now represents my Java game programming experience not my Java knowledge, We should be good.

It’s better to sell yourself short than to say you’ve known Java for 3 years and then get taught by a whole load of people with half that experience.

But anyway, you can say what you want about your experience. Other people will interpret as they wish. And it’s pretty obvious how much experience someone actually has. The only reason I brought it up was that otherwise people would start posting more responses like trollwarrior’s (nothing wrong with that particular post, but it could’ve gotten worse).

I wasn’t insinuating anything, only observing with what I knew; please don’t be insulted.

That said, I don’t know if TheNewBoston’s (know of him, just not familiar) tuts cover the basics of programming in general, but please get a good book on either Java or programming in a language agnostic context. A 400+ page book simply cannot be replicated in it’s combination of depth, breadth, and raw referance-ablity by a youtube playlist.

A book cannot be replicated by actual programming experience. Books are to be used as references for certain topics, like 3d shadows. You can’t really learn whole book and say you’re good at programming, because you know certain topics. Programming is more like taking bits and pieces and putting them together, not making bits and pieces. Even new people to programming could read 400 page book and implement stuff written there, but once the project gets bigger, they would just give up, because it would prove to be too difficult for them, since they haven’t actually done programming, but rather read a book.

You can’t learn how to drive by reading a book, can you? :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh, im not insulted to the least bit. Did i come off angry from that last post? Thenewboston has been recommended like crazy for his amazing java tuts. He doesn’t use official wording though. He calls assignment operators equal signs and stuff. I own a java programming book as well. It’s a Java game programming for dummies book. Honestly, I can’t learn from books. I’d much prefer to learn visually or peer to peer like this forum. (I’ve learned so much from this forum already) Anyways, ya no offense taken.

Ah, but I never said a book is the answer to knowing how to program. I said (well, implied) that it is a good place to start before you know what to do to get that essential experience. Everyone’s got to start somewhere, I just think that a solid book is a particularly good type of stepping stone for this particular subject we call programming. I also never said (and I hope I didn’t imply) that it is the end-all-be-all. Get knowledge from as many sources as possible of course, but yes, it does come down to experience in the end, I agree on that.

@Pizza

So you’re suggesting a beginner to grab a book and learn? I don’t know about the place you went to school in, but from my experience, bad teacher is better teacher than a book is.

Never went to school for programming, unless you count my bedroom :slight_smile:
(Although this fall I head off to college, planning on CS major, so there’s that.)

Learned Java from books in the library. Granted they weren’t the best, but I have a much better collection now. I don’t see how a bad teacher (depends on how bad ofc) is better than even an average book, this is anecdotal, but still I’ve read all kinds of horror stories about crappy professors, etc, and resulting clueless students.

I guess we simply have different experience.

I learned programming from reading as well. There was no “computer classes” when I went to high school, nor were there any good videos. I just learned from trial and error, and by focusing on designing a game. With games, at least you can visually see what is going wrong when you are trying to fix it…

Wait, what was the original topic about again? :point:

Still derailing…

I’ve only got 10 or so month of experience but I learned everything from various books, Head First Java was one. Free others I “acquired” digitally, as I was unemployed at the time and could not afford a £30 book.