Left 4k Dead

[Abuse]

@trembovetski

BTW, a different control scheme may be a bit better: left mouse to move to pointer, right to shoot (or the other way around)…

Dmitri

Though mouse only will save a few bytes in the input handling, I imagine the code required for the needed path finding to make such a control scheme work would be massive in comparison.

I like it the way it is myself, and the currently free mouse button should come in handy if [undisclosed] feature fits into 4k ;D

[appel]

This is amazing!

Two things:

1. Maybe make the illuminated area around player a bit bigger (10%)
2. Scale up the screen! Can’t you make it a bit larger? Seems very smallish :}
3. Add something like a grenade!

[jojoh]

Really cool game! The atmosphere is just amazing, and gfx really adds to the game! With just some “painful feedback”, maybe just flashing red screen or something when the player takes a beating it would be quite scary to play. The gameplay is maybe not so exciting after a little while. Maybe finding something or going to a specific point within a timeframe would make it more interesting so that one can not just slowly kill everything that gets close, but rather would have to take a gamble and go for it in between would be really cool. Still just seeing the guy walk around the maze with the lighting effects is quite amazing in 4k!

Edit:

@Markus_Persson

• Molotovs/fire?

YEAH!

[jojoh]

@trembovetski

BTW, a different control scheme may be a bit better: left mouse to move to pointer, right to shoot (or the other way around)…

a, No, it is good as it is
b, RMB is needed for the molotov

[CaptainJester]

Phenominal.

[EnderGT]

@CaptainJester

Phenominal.

Amen. Hey Markus, wanna give the rest of us a freakin chance here? ;D

feedback:

1. the control system takes a bit to get used to. I’d expect ‘w’ to move me in the direction of the mouse cursor, ‘s’ away, and ‘a’ and ‘d’ to strafe relative to the mouse.
2. the grainy effect is rather stressful on the eyes, and I don’t think it really adds anything to the environment - it’s creepy enough as it is.
3. we need an explosive on the other mouse button ;D

Otherwise, as stated above… truly phenomenal. The lighting and shadows, the bullet, the blood spatter, the map, the zombie “AI”… all amazing.

[gouessej]

@Morre

Very cool stuff, Markus!

It took me a while to realize that WASD actually directly controlled the movement. Given the sort of animation you have, I first thought you’d have W for forward, S for back, and A/D for turning. On the other hand, that wouldn’t make any sense at all with the mouse aiming, so what you’ve got is good.

Think about AZERTY keyboards too… ZQSD instead of only WASD.

[Markus_Persson]

Thanks for all the nice feedback, guys. =)

The controls are probably going to stay as-is (possibly moved to arrow keys though, for azerty keyboards).
I don’t really have time to work on this project this weekend because of Ludum Dare 13… but after that, I’ll do my very best to add some kind of explosives. =D

[CaptainJester]

@Markus_Persson

Thanks for all the nice feedback, guys. =)

The controls are probably going to stay as-is (possibly moved to arrow keys though, for azerty keyboards).
I don’t really have time to work on this project this weekend because of Ludum Dare 13… but after that, I’ll do my very best to add some kind of explosives. =D

I like the controls the way they are. Once you get used to them it is better that way.

[gouessej]

@CaptainJester

I like the controls the way they are. Once you get used to them it is better that way.

Please try to imagine yourself playing with an AZERTY keyboard and don’t be selfish.

[Demonpants]

[EDIT]It was silly of me to post this. ::)[/EDIT]

[appel]

@gouessej

Please try to imagine yourself playing with an AZERTY keyboard and don’t be selfish.

I PITY THE FOOL playing with AZERTY keyboard ;D

QWERTY for the win!

[trembovetski]

Sometimes the blood splatter comes through the walls… I doubt that it’s intentional… =)

Dmitri

[Ranger]

@gouessej

Please try to imagine yourself playing with an AZERTY keyboard and don’t be selfish.

AZERTY keyboard. In Windows, language bar, switch French to English. Bingo! QWERTY keyboard layout! It even remembers you only want that layout for that one window! I hope other o/s aren’t selfish and can also do this. ;D

Markus: Brilliant game! Looks absolutely stunning!

[gouessej]

@Ranger

AZERTY keyboard. In Windows, language bar, switch French to English. Bingo! QWERTY keyboard layout!

No, I don’t use Windows. If you ask a casual gamer to change this kind of settings, he might give up.

@Demonpants

Dude, this probably isn’t the place to say this, but I think you need to seriously rethink how you present most of what you say here on JGO. I’d say 75% of your posts come off as elitist, whiny, or assumptive.

I say elitist because you often present your own projects as if they are something special, or above the cut of other people’s projects, especially TUER. I’ve seen you say things a few times like, “even TUER has some bugs” or “even TUER took a while to look good,” and all kinds of things. You also repeatedly insist that JOGL is this amazing library and LWJGL isn’t, with no backing for this other than that you’ve use JOGL for your own projects.

Whiny because of the way your words come across, which is a more abstract thing. This is perhaps because English isn’t your first language, but most would say, “what about AZERTY?” instead of the way you phrased it. It just usually seems that you’re making demands or upbraiding people for not thinking of your situation, when of course nobody can consider everything. You’re there to tell them what they forgot, not complain because they forgot it.

By assumptive I meant that you’re assuming that Captain Jester is being selfish by presenting his own opinion on the control scheme, and you do in many other places as well (like when you recently told me to stop complaining about Apple’s JVM as if it were Sun’s fault, when I did nothing of the kind). Just chill out. People can present their own opinions, you don’t need to make an otherwise worthless post telling them that they’re being cruel or selfish or anything like that (and yes, I realize that my own post is otherwise worthless).

I’m sorry for posting this but I’ve just gotten upset with repeatedly seeing the same sorts of negative posts coming out of you.

I won’t pollute this thread, it is not my aim, my answer has to be short. My post about the keyboard doesn’t mean that Left 4k Dead is bad, I like Markus’ games as I already said on another thread. Don’t forget that it is possible to use WSAD and ZSQD both, it is a minor change (W and Z do the same thing, A and Q too, it is not complicated ;)), it would require a few minutes if the author agreed and I don’t demand anything, I suggest only. English is not my mother tongue like many people here but it doesn’t mean that my words should be twisted.

Markus_Persson, if it is not clear enough, I need to say something important:
I like “Infinite Mario Bros”, I like “Breaking the tower”, I like “Miners4k” and I like “Left 4k Dead” too.
I hope that my words won’t be twisted anew, it is a positive feedback, is that clear?

[Markus_Persson]

It’s done!

[url=http://www.mojang.com/notch/j4k/l4kd/]
http://www.mojang.com/notch/j4k/l4kd/screenshot.png

Play now![/url]

Unfortunately, there are no explosives. Space runs out fast in 4kb.

[appel]

WOW! :o

[oNyx]

Awesome stuff! ;D

[Markus_Persson]

Why, thank you =D

[Morre]

I’m amazed. This is one fantastic 4k game! :>

Just one tiny suggestion, if you’re going to change anything at all: Don’t let the player instantly click to start a new game - I was in a clicking frenzy with my pistol when the game over screen showed, and I clicked past the score by accident.