Well some of them are non gmail, and I have to use those SMTPs also, so no =P
Also I don’t know if you can even connect 2 google accounts - you’re not really supposed to have more than 1 =0
Getting really OT now! Pretty much doable. You’re allowed two accounts, too, as they allow you to sign in to more than one at the same time. Does mean that I no longer have any privacy, though, but I live in the UK so that’s just an illusion anyway! ;D
Time to shut up about GMail now. Ruining all my earlier arguments against JavaScript. woot Java Rocks!!! woot 8)
Email is only email, mostly crap anyway. Why you need some super advanced application like Thunderbird that sits on one PC is beyond me, most just read their email or send some email, and don’t receive a lot anyway.
I used to use thunderbird in the past, eudora before that. But it really got annoying to use because you had to set it up every time you got a new PC, reinstalled Windows or whatever. Deferring that email annoyance to the web is a big saver.
Could I make Revenge of the Titans in Javascript and HTML5 with WebGL? No. It’d be horribly slow, take me 4x as long to develop anyway, and work on only a tiny fraction of the devices upon which it is supposedly supposed to be able to work. Anything nontrivial just spirals out of control in javascript and browser tech.
I agree with matheus23. WebGL implementations use FBOs; if you don’t have a nice support of this feature, it doesn’t work or it is unbearably slow, just face it and lots of Intel chips in lots of laptops badly support it, tons of drivers are simply blacklisted. HTML5 canvas is too slow even though its performance is less bad than some months ago.
That most-used argument is a fallacy. You could equally say that C++ is the most used language in the world because that’s what Javascript is built with. Or that it’s ARM machine code because there are more ARM chips running code right now than anything else. Etc.
I agree, I’ve already heard people saying “Java is the most used language”, even if java was made in C++… ?
One could argument, that the most lines were written in Java, what I doubt.
(And Mr. caspian is just right about the ARM chips, btw, did you know ever your USB-Stick has an ARM-processor in it? Ever your Bluetooth stick has one)
So let’s just say: Bit’s are the most used code visualization.
Anyways:
I can’t find the link anymore, but I know that the V8 Engine is actually very fast and only about twice slower than native C code.
I think the bad thing about Javascript, and a bad thing about (imo) every language is the un-type…thing… (sorry my english is weak at this point). Even a friend of mine, who loved and still loves scheme and lisp for years, now has to admit, that declerating types wouldn’t be too bad…
When I think about the problems I had with Javascript I think about trying to access arrays (= “Hash”-Map, Stack (Deque), whatever, btw) with an indice actually being a double. It returned “undefined”. Yeah… No errors… just code, which doesn’t work.
I’d say that javascript is pretty nice if you write things, which are about 1k to 3k lines. For bigger projects you simply need more “scrict” stuff. Just like java has it’s classes, and there aren’t the jQuery AND MooTools class implementation hanging around for the guys, who actually hate prototype based stuff and want class systems.
And yeah. I think I should have moved on to WebGL, but I already got back to java with LWJGL with a Game Of Life simulation program, which works 200 times faster than the Javascript-Canvas stuff… (And I benchmarked it. It’s the Canvas’ fault.)
Anyways. My 2 cents in a very bad structured post.
I agree with Cas: Javascript is shit. I earn a living writing Javascript and I loathe it. It is definitely the best tool for writing web apps, but that’s damning with faint praise. It’s nightmarish to maintain, it has the performance of an drunk encephalitic tapeworm and about as much charisma. If you write little toys with it, it’s fine but it scales badly. You try having a giant code base and then something breaks and you get no warnings whatsoever and when you do get an error it’s nowhere near the actual problem. A nightmare.
Any language that can’t even do ‘include’ is pretty fucked IMO.
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wrt js java is like learnin good english a primitive lang as it is nd than switchn 2 a much more efficient mode of communication its not hard 2 do at all nd ne1 w/o a good grammar nd skilled in prose can craft a compltly legit eng w/ there i’s closed nd nvr rly need 2 go 2 hischool they drill n whos and whoms and it does no one no good it is compltly rediculous to lrn J. or C or C++ or C# their obsolete nd no1 will use them in the future clearly no1 needs that skill so y waste ur time learning nething but js not even a fool would put time n2 learnin a soon 2 b obsolete language js is the only way of the future nd no 1 will benefit 4 learning it 1st i feel srry 4 the people that lrn n outdated lang obv they will not b able 2 transition 2 the new standard nd those of us who have lrnd js from the start will laugh nd laugh cause no 1 will be able 2 lrn what we did as quickly as we did its not like knowng j will make js code a trivial ndvor knowin js will make knowin C and J easy nd no1 will need 2 use nething but js cause computers will b faster
Good luck parsing that in less time than I wrote it.