Are there any issues with signing jars? Can you use JLWGL, JOGL et al?
The problem is that it’s not very easy to detect when java isn’t there or when the java version isn’t sufficient for your app. So you could copy the code from the DT into your own script, and in case of an error do whatever you think should be done (redirect to java.com or whatever).
One thing that DT does is that in some cases it could initiate “upgrade in place” (without leaving the page) if the installed java isn’t too old and needs to be upgraded to a more recent one. But that logic could to be copied.
BTW, I think there’s been an improved version of java detection script somewhere on jgo (Sun’s version has bugs).
Dmitri
And, no. They don’t support java.
[quote]At this time I don’t think we’ve seen a compelling reason to bring
Java in to the mix, and I’m not aware of any plans to change that.
We’re looking more heavily at Silverlight and Unity at this time, but
Java is not in the talks currently - at least not in a broad sense.
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Silverlight? Seriously?
So, anything but Java! :persecutioncomplex:
I think perhaps ChrisM might want to get involved at this point and show them the error of their ways.
Cas 
btw just curious, what did you submit to them? maybe it blew up
applets before the new plugin2 (before java 1.6.0.10) were actually really bad, prune to crashing (with the browser and even sometimes the computer), caused massive slowdown and freezes. They left a bad impression for many people, and is most likely the reason kongregate never want to use them again. Gonna be pretty hard to convince people who have been bitten by the applets in the past that applets are all good now. Many java programmers still avoid them for this very reason.
Minecraft and The Europa Arcology Incident
should have submitted Breaking the Tower, still one of my favorite games
but yeh unlikely to have been what you submitted that caused the rejection.
Yea seriously, what is going on here…Silverlight over Java?! Please ChrisM help us out, there seems to be something seriously wrong with peoples perception of Java…
Maybe we can create a webpage with all of the Featured games in applets, all working and show it to them. Maybe that would be a compelling reason to look at Java. Although if Minecraft wasnt, idk if anything will work.
I’m disappointed :’( It is still hardly possible to live from Java games programming. I had planned to develop an applet especially for Kongregate (a kind of GTA-like, I had already begun coding), now this project will go directly into the trash bin 
What can we do to encourage Kongregate to accept applets? Minecraft is excellent, they should have given it a try, I sent them a message to protest once again.
Could we organize a collective action to denounce such an unfair decision? Otherwise, what do you suggest?
Did Kongregate give the exact reason of not supporting Java? We might learn something here. Just my $0.02
The users don’t like installing new plugins, and they don’t want to have to support several technologies.
last i checked the java plugin had about 2-3 times the market share of silverlight.
Strange reasoning by them… And Unity games are accepted… how many ppl have that plugin installed (or even know of its existence), and how many online gamers have java installed… Kongregate got it wrong!
ChrisM go get them! 
PS. Just upload to games4j.com instead! Markus, you are always welcome there!
hmm, maybe i’m missing something about chrism, what do you people expect him to do? is he some sort of super hero?
Yes
Cas
I thought they did a rollback just to get rid of the above replies.
[quote]Strange reasoning by them… And Unity games are accepted… how many ppl have that plugin installed (or even know of its existence), and how many online gamers have java installed… Kongregate got it wrong!
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It’s all about reputation… and Java’s reputation for embedded web app/games/whatever is just not good.
We’re fighting an uphill battle. Maybe we should send in some really big guns - Cas, time to port your games to applets!
My games are already ported to applets, I’m just not releasing them until there’s a viable place to do so.
Cas
I get 8 (eight!) security dialogs on that page.