[quote] Right, thats because you bombed all the schools! And for some people, religion is more important than science, computers, and art combined!
Sorry, swpalmer, but you have just lost all my respect for you.
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Swpalmer bombed your schools? Wow!
Your numbers are off, 45% of the earths population does not follow islam.
Indeed. The only “religion” I genuinely respect is Buddhism but I’m still not a Buddhist. What was that bit of Usenet law about Nazis and thread termination? I think we ought to lock this thread because it’s just getting people riled at each other when ordinarily I don’t think a single one of us in here wishes any harm to any other human beings of any creed and if we met face to face in we’d probably have very different ways to sort things out.
Bottom line is, killing people is the only and ultimate wrong being committed, by all sides. F*ck 'em all if they don’t want to live in peace.
Cas 
[quote]Excuse me? Made-up nonsense religion? Shows what you know. You obviously haven’t read about islam or actually bothered to think about muslims point of view. There are something like 2.6 BILLION muslims in the world, out of 6.5 BILLION, and all of those 2.6 are following a “made-up nonsense religeon”!
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What is your point? Number of followers is not relevant. For one thing I was not referring to islam specifically, so the numbers are likely much larger. Most religions are similarly deceptive. Perhaps you should do some research on religion in general yourself.
[quote]Go read history, go find out why a hatred has grew deep inside our hearts for the western countries. Then, and only then, are you qualified to make statements like this.
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The hatred was promoted with lies from religious leaders.
[quote]Right, thats because you bombed all the schools!
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I did no such thing. Nor did I support anyone who did in any way. In any case the recent bombing was too recent to be the cause of the lack of education. More likely is that the religious leaders are against education because then people would know enough to question them (as deadly as that is in Iraq).
[quote] And for some people, religion is more important than science, computers, and art combined!
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Yes, that’s the problem. People base their lives on mythology even when presented with much more likely scientific truths. People choose to believe what they are told by religious leaders with hidden agendas. If the religious leaders tell the people to kill americans (like they have), they blindly follow and commit the requested murders (as they have). If the religious leaders believed their religion to be true they would not be afraid of science. But science threatens their power over the people by showing them how they have been lied to, how the religious leaders don’t really know truths, they say what they like to keep their power or cling to their faith despite the facts that show their beliefs to be false.
Imagine if the people would learn to think for themselves. If they were educated to think critically.
[quote]Sorry, swpalmer, but you have just lost all my respect for you.
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Because my opinion is that corrupt religious leaders promoting terrorism is a bad thing?
what you guys are arguing about, neither of you can prove. You’re both preaching ambiguities and you won’t convince either of you to change your minds. Unless you can quote religious leaders or cite credible surveys for numbers, you both might as well be making facts up on the spot for as much as anyone else can tell. Whether or not I agree with either of your arguments, they don’t have any weight, but I don’t think it’s either of your faults.
I think the resulting thought should be more of, “What we all need now is peace and understanding, regardless of what wrongs have been felt or preached in the past.” Pointing fingers or assigning blame to masses will not make anyone feel more inclined to spread peace. In fact all it can do is stir up anger… as it has done in this case.
Can’t we get back to the easy topic of poking at all of the mistakes Bush has made? That one’s so obvious, and pretty important to help bring the undecided American voters out of the dark Boo hiss, Bush bad, Bush bad.
Abstinence in 2004, No Bush or Dick 
John Kerry may be a flip-flopping waffler, but he’s not Bush, and that’s good enough reason to vote for Kerry ;D
Another note: My girlfriend’s dad lost her job from IBM… so he moved to India, and got his old job back. My girlfriend saw him 1 week out of every 3 months. No lie, I’m serious. That’s the kind of situation Bush has led us into. Yuck!