Eclipse 3.1

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@swpalmer

I’m not sure why Blah has issues with Eclipse on OS X. It seems to work fine for me, though perhaps a bit slower than on Windows.

Just something … odd … in how it (fails to) install itself properly as an app, and you can’t actually put the icon on the dock and things.

I suspect it can all be fixed manually with some jiggery pokery, a few tiny custom shell scripts etc, but…that’s more than I’m prepared to do (I just use a different IDE when on OS X).

[TheAnalogKid]

Eclipse 3.1 performance has been improved compared to 3.0 and in terms of productivity functionnalities/core programming tasks, it’s significantly more mature and versatil than NB. Of course I’m not talking about J2EE productivity here but I don’t need those tools in my dayly work. It’s still missing XML editing support but you can freelly download the XMLBuddy plugin and it does the job very well.

Maybe NB 4.1 will be better in terms of productivity.

[kappa]

i also like to say that eclipse 3.1 feels much faster and snappyier then 3.0 don’t know what they did, but it sure much better than before, haven’t tried any of the generics stuff yet though!

[swpalmer]

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@swpalmer

I’m not sure why Blah has issues with Eclipse on OS X. It seems to work fine for me, though perhaps a bit slower than on Windows.

Just something … odd … in how it (fails to) install itself properly as an app, and you can’t actually put the icon on the dock and things.

I have my Eclipse icon on the dock, I don’t have any issue with that.
The issue that does appear is that it adds another icon to the dock when it is running. something to do with the SWT java launcher that they’ve done and the funky threading issues that Java has with SWT apps on the Mac… But I can live with that.

[Bombadil]

@TheAnalogKid

Maybe NB 4.1 will be better in terms of productivity.

NB 4.1 final has been released over two months ago and runs very stable. Productivity (J2SE) is excellent for my purposes.
NB 4.2 is in beta currently.

Just an info, I don’t want to compare the two IDEs (here).

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@swpalmer

I have my Eclipse icon on the dock, I don’t have any issue with that.
The issue that does appear is that it adds another icon to the dock when it is running. something to do with the SWT java launcher that they’ve done and the funky threading issues that Java has with SWT apps on the Mac… But I can live with that.

Hmph :(. Why me? Sigh. Perhaps I inadvertently got an out-of-date version or something? Or there’s something unusual on my iBook - you are running Tiger, aren’t you? (cos I am)

[Mojomonkey]

I also have Eclipse in the dock in 10.4.2. I dragged the Eclipse launcher into the dock (make sure you drag the one with the eclipse logo), and it stayed in the dock fine. It does do the strange thing where to creates another “running icon” in the dock when it starts up, as swpalmer said.

http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/images/misc/eclipse.png

I really wish they would just make it a proper .app

Hope that helps.

[swpalmer]

It has always been dockable on all OS versions I have tried 10.2.x, through to 10.4.2 which I am running now. There have been issues with the number of icons that appear in the doc going up to three at one point, as the Java launcher for SWT apps evolved.

I have also been running Eclipse 2 point something to 3.1 and nearly every RC release between them. I’ve never had any issues with docking. I can’t think of what you might be doing differently.

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@swpalmer

I’m not sure why Blah has issues with Eclipse on OS X. It seems to work fine for me, though perhaps a bit slower than on Windows.

Just something … odd … in how it (fails to) install itself properly as an app, and you can’t actually put the icon on the dock and things.

Another example: SWT crashed with an error trying to access the printer demon!! WTF!?! (no, I didn’t try to print anything )

Apple’s JVM now will not start on this OS X machine :(.

This is the kind of reason why I didn’t think Eclipse on OS X was currently much of a goer. However, it’s 3.0, which may explain the seriousness of the problems (I’m guessing SWT may have been upgraded as part of 3.1, not just eclipse itself?)

[ribot]

Blah^3 - So what IDE do you use under OSX at the moment then?

I’m currently on Eclipse3.0.1 and XCode (Tiger) and am quite happy (running on my alBook).

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@ribot

Blah^3 - So what IDE do you use under OSX at the moment then?

Eclipse 3.0 :). Yes, it hurts when it crashes out (frequently) and does odd things - the other day, it was running and spontaneously vanished from the dock. I showed this to other people in the office to check I wasn’t imagining it. I’d never seen an app do that before :).

I’m hoping 3.1 will fare better, but haven’t had time to try it yet. Note that at work I have two or 3 machines on my desk - one OS X, one windows, and often one linux too - handy for testing. Sadly, whereas the two PC’s have 1Gb RAM each, the iBook only has 768, and 768 on OS X seems about the same as 400 on a PC (measured by: apps slow, plenty of swapping, plenty of out-of-memory crashes etc).

768 on the iBook is enough for Word to only crash once every week, with > 10 docs open most days, and Mozilla to never crash with > 5 windows with 5-20 tabs in each. So, good for a decent desktop replacement, just no good for development.

I’ve been testing some JME stuff (generates LOTS of garbage) on the 1Gb machines and it’s quite scary how quickly a small JME game running java 5 can take up > 500Mb RAM :). Runs much slower on the iBook