Does really game development on Java suck? Why are we still here?

They have beta downloads of JDK 8 already, so it’s basically done.

Yeah I have seen it, has anyone tried it ?

Now we, desktop devs, are going to have compiling (target) issue like what android devs have.

You always did have this problem. Praise be to the embedded VM. poof! the problem has gone away on Windows (and Linux, if you want). Mac remains a complexity.

Cas :slight_smile:

Yeah… fortunately there’s simple trick for this. Compile everything to 6 (and android 2.2).

Official site works for me, developer preview builds of jigsaw can be downloaded from here.

Whats the problem on Mac ? Can’t bundle a private vm ? Why ?

Because Apple did not allow you to embed their Java implementation in your application. However, there is nothing preventing you from embedding OpenJDK in a few months, as soon as the following issue is implemented:
http://java.net/jira/browse/MACOSX_PORT-105

There is also the small issue that LWJGL (and probably - not sure - JOGL) don’t work with OpenJDK 7 on the Mac.

Cas :slight_smile:

For anybody wondering why JGO as a community produces so few games: look at the libgdx forums, they are spitting out new games on a regular basis. Apperantly developers really appreciate not having to worry about technical details. We need a few engines to do the heavy lifting, just like in the C/C++ gamedev scene.

We’re also a smaller community. I would argue Slick is a reasonably good library on its own.

To be fair though: On the desktop the heavy lifting (window managment, GL context setup, etc.) is done by Lwjgl for libgdx. The only “heavy lifting” we do is compile a few bits of native code for all three desktop platforms. For most people the desktop backends are just there for rapid development, only people taking part in Ludum Dare or doing WebGL stuff use those backends for deployment.

I agree with you and longino. I did some C# programming. Vusual Studio SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS. I HATEEEE IT. I WANT TO KILL. I feel like a claustrophobic idiot in a cave.

It’s the bastard child of Eclipse’s ugly brother (NetBeans is Eclipse’s cousin in this (is this a metaphor?)).

Netbeans is Eclipse’s ugly brother! ;D

Who would be Eclipse’s ugly brother then? :smiley:

VisualAge for Java perhaps? That’s more like its half-brother and uncle at the same time if you get my drift.

Unless I’m on drugs, eclipse came from VisualAge.

It did, and VisualAge was what got me in to Java in the first place, and why I started using Eclipse.

Cas :slight_smile: