I’m fairly sure delt0r was refering to something that happened at least 7 or 8 years ago in #lwjgl. Those were the days 
[quote]seeing him here on this forum, blamed us for being alienating, then left and never came back.
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No it was not.
Surely there is a better way to make your point than to say somebody is incorrect. I know I’m not the go-to guy on these matters, but working on your social skills may be worth your while - especially if you continue to find yourself wondering why everyone is ‘attacking you for no reason’. You’re giving off a negative vibe that is hard to shrug off.
I struggle with such issues myself, and at least acknowledging it and trying not to respond too quickly with some snarky remark, but simply not taking your first interpretation as an absolute truth. My initial interpretation on social matters is usually kinda skewed, bonkers, even. Rereading what others said, trying to imagine somebody wrote it with the best intentions, seems to help. Give it a try - starting with this message
I can’t prove anything and they can’t prove anything. There was nothing else to say.
The internet is emotionless and I am dealing with everyone who assumes any emotion or meaning.
If I were to attack someone over the internet, I would call myself stupid.
If I were to try to make sarcasm over the internet, I would call myself stupid. (Unless message saying sarcasm ya kno)
And I follow the rule of: If you don’t like it leave.
Things don’t bother me that much, but since everyone for some reason (anywhere I go) assumes I am a retard and are out to get me. It’s like I must demonstrate everything I am worth in order to say stuff, when all actuality nobody cares :point:
Maybe don’t be so provocative? Honestly, and don’t take offense to this, you seem like you’re pretty headstrong and are not going to really listen to anyone here. This is just a forum, and we are just trying to give you information. There’s nothing deep about it, and you don’t need to be “accepted”. If you think you need to prove something to strangers you’ll never meet then I think you need to take a look at yourself and how you’re communicating with others. It seems like all the discussions on this site with you in them end up like this, again don’t take offense to that. Just an observation.
This is an anti-social stance that will get you nowhere in life.
You can do as you please, but don’t bother us with this particular mindset.
Being friendly is usually all there is to it. With the added bonus that people will actually care.
One question: Why should you behave on a forum like JGO different than how you would in real life regarding whether and how much you respect and appreciate people?
I think no one can do that separation. And how you behave in real life affects how you behave “on the internet” and the other way around. Everything is connected and affects everything else, always and everywhere.
So, if you actually got that dull regarding social reactions, which simply are part of everyone, then you must have had some pretty rough experiences in your life.
I think Riven’s footer says everything: appreciate more people.
There is much to it. And appreciating and respecting people will get you further in life. You will make more acquaintance with people who help you and you help them.
Simply care about people, who they are and what they do. You will receive that ten-fold back.
If you continue acting in the provocative way (which now I believe you really don’t do on purpose) then you will not care about people and people will not care about it.
Ooh sweet. Time to rant about my life.
I grew up not being loved and was payed particularly no interest to. I had no friends, only bullies, throughout my middleschool career and didn’t do anything school wise. In 5th grade I did absolutely nothing, but that wasn’t entirely my fault. I blame this on a group black kids (not because of being black) that eventually made these kids cry.
So I went into highschool antisocial as ever. I go to a project based learning school. I have gotten better at speaking and we present almost weekly with powerpoints or other material. In my junior year it got better, but still no friends, only acquaintances, and nobody would talk to me without me talking to them. As I went on to my senior year, after my years of being bashed by seeing everyone I liked (because I literally had no chance) 2/3 into the way I realized genders are nothing and I haven’t had any social interaction which I loved. I never felt love and I grew to cherish the fuck out of people when any sort of good happened toward me. I am the guy who holds doors open for people. I am the guy who loves everyone, hates the idiots (redneck farmer a-holes, etc). I am the guy who will lend you lunch money. I make everyone laugh with jokes and keep positive vibes for other people.
I definitely don’t have a social problem, but I have a loneliness problem.
And to top everything off I was gay during the 2/3 period.
To be emotionless on the forum trumps all needs of people just saying k. I am not going to facilitate any emotion into any post that makes people sad. I say it how it is. I don’t feel the need to be all like…
Hi JGO I love you guys!
Hey I ran into a problem…
And I guess from all the crap I’ve went through my life, I deserve a break sometime ._.
don’t want to derail things any more. But i remember distinctly have a private IRC chat with you about the whole thing, i probably still have the logs ;). There was some other guy who was doing the same thing. He ended up permanently banned.
Oh yea Riven is right. It was about 7 or 8 years ago. I am an old bastard.
I’ve been holding back on posting this for a while now, but I guess it seems appropriate.
I happen to have saved the ending of our little discussion on IRC, mostly because of how amusing it was, but also if I ever needed to refer back to it in a time like this.
Maybe I can’t prove anything, but everyone can decide for themselves.
For those with nothing better to do with their lives, here’s how our discussion ended: http://pastebin.com/r0HdQAaD
To be fair, that is the only time I ever went out and called people dumb or anything. Serves me right, I guess. I don’t remember what the argument was about though, but that paste was missing context. That and it was late at night for me. Though everyone in there was trying to put me on edge… maybe it was that one guy that would’t stop … I don’t remember. Hmm
Recently I said ‘fuck you’ to KaiHH, which he was not going to call that out in previous posts. But I said my side on that. Other than that I am clean.
I’m going to say something and you’re not going to like it. Grow up and get over your problems.
I had a shit childhood because of my young parents and my abusive father. I was the poor kid in a rich school and was bullied my entire life every day until 8th grade when I switched schools and was amazed people actually genuinely wanted to be my friend and talk to me. I was a nerd throughout high school and never had any kind of social life until the end when I met a wonderful girl. I left home at 17 without any money, my parents didn’t talk to me and I still had to finish school and make a living for myself on minimum wage. I’m still pretty skinny, kind of awkward but I’ve turned my life around and now I have friends and I love my life. I have a great job, and new outlook on life and people I love.
But none of this happened until I decided to grow up and stop living in my sorrow. Yeah, my life sucked for a long time and there were plenty of days when I wanted to just die and end the embarrassment I constantly felt. I would go to school, get made fun of all day, and then come home and get yelled at or beaten by my father. It fucking was terrible. Until I decided enough was enough. Your life is what you make it, and if you decide to wallow in self-pity then that’s your choice but you’re not going to have fun. I get it, you weren’t dealt a good set of cards so far in life. Neither did I. I understand that it’s not easy to just change your life, I was scared to change until 11th grade (16 years old).
Take responsibility for your own actions, realize that hard work is invaluable in life. Other people are not here to guide you, you will have to figure out your own way at some point. Get a grip on your social life and find friends. You say you’re a social person or whatever, but it sounds like you’re extremely judgmental too.
I was also the kid that thought other people from different ways of life were stupid. I used to think rednecks were dicks and who cares about cars right? I used to think people that like to listen to mainstream music are just idiot followers. Stop that. Stop thinking like that. It’s toxic and terrible and people will pick up on it. You think you don’t have friends because everyone else is mean, right? Take a look at how yourself and how others might view you. You’re missing out on cool people just because you’re generalizing and categorizing people. You’re judging books by their covers. Some of my best friends are people that are just into “redneck” stuff. I used to be all into computers all the time; now I love working on my Jeep and my motorcycle. 5 years ago I never would have thought about that kind of stuff.
I have no idea where I’m going with this, and some people are probably going to roll their eyes and say “oh, there goes Opiop again”. But I honestly want to help. I’m not trying to be mean. I’m trying to pass on the hard lessons I had to learn. I lost most of my childhood because I limited myself and had a pretty terrible family situation. Be bigger than that. Aspire to do things, and actually go out and achieve them. Stop judging people so harshly before you know them. Put some real work into the things you like and don’t dismiss what others have been working on for years just because you don’t feel like learning about it. Life is amazing because you CAN shape it to be whatever you want it to be. I learned that when I left home and expanded my interests.
I hope you actually understand this and take it to heart. I’d like to help people through the shit I had to go through if I can.
It was sort of pointless to write those long paragraphs detailing your experiences. That is not a bad thing. Rest assured, sometimes I forget who I am.
This was an edit from me saying it was 100% pointless, which isn’t what I meant in the first place. It’s was part of me processing and analyzing.
I’ll break down why, we are very similar.
@First paragraph
Same. My father wasn’t abusive though… to me. I was grounded 80% of the time and couldn’t do anything fun all my childhood. I could never be alone by myself. I was either cleaning or entertaining my brother so my parents can do what they want. Hell I got beat for being gay/experimenting (Im genderless). My sister got the abuse. I haven’t made it that far. I’ve been admitted into college and finishing highschool now.
@Second paragraph
I don’t live in the sorrow. When everything in your life doesn’t go according to plan you do learn to live with it and ignore it. On the inside i’m like, “Just kill me now. No wait afterlife is so much more worse.” but on the outside everyone around me is smiling, laughing, and having a good time (my victory). I used to get bullied all middleschool year and frankly even highschool year, but I distance myself from people a lot. I’ve gotten better my senior year. I went from a F student to straight A student. I had to learn everything by myself I missed out on in middle school. I’m not loved whatsoever and I just want to love everything. So it’s a pickle. mmm… dill… I am actually learning trig by myself using khan academy. Got a lot of way through it, got stumped at radians and unit circles. I understand it for the most part, but I don’t have any cheat sheet/I’m too lazy to google. lmgtfy.com/?q=Unit+Circle+Trig
@3rd paragraph(?)
“invaluable” I assume this means priceless. Although, given what I already said I’m pretty tired already. I think I’m getting to the age of being okay to pass away… like around 70, but 20. That’s because I learned enough. That is subject to change. I also want to state that every girl at my school is 1.3 gpa while im sitting here with my shitty 2.0,2.1 gpa. The guys I am around are redneck assholes. I am the one who loves everyone. Don’t hit me or be spiteful and we k. I am surrounded by idiots though. Push a pacifist into wanting to slit your eye sockets. Do it. (Yes I am a pacifist.) I look at myself and I say, “Gee I don’t deserve such a low score given that I am smarter than 100% of the student body at my school (try me)”
@Paragraph 4
I overgeneralize. I bolster a benefit of the doubt of my overgeneralization (what else am I supposed to expect when a majority of X is like Y) before any racism, sexism, etc incurs. I see what you are talking about don’t nock it till you try it, but I don’t jump on bandwagons easily at all.
I accept your effort.
Please just stop digging your own grave
Christ. You know man, good luck. And in 20 years when you’ve hopefully snapped out of your teenage angst I will be willing to bet money you’ll look back at this and laugh at yourself.
At least I can say I tried to help you. Just float through life and feel sorry for yourself, no other possibilities amirite?
Honestly, my last advice to you; find a god damn counselor or therapist. Normally I don’t care about internet people but you need help based on your responses.
Reread the first part. I made an edit.
^ Do This, please.
And if you can’t afford one of these, here’s some advice, something I came to terms with something a long time ago. Life isn’t perfect. It’s never been for me, it’s never been for anyone on this goddamned planet. The best thing you can do is not let it get on your nerves. The worst thing you can do is go out and flame people like you have done now. It just makes you look like an idiot. If I was a different person I could maybe write off your behavior as trying to fit in to our community. But what you’re doing is trying to become part of the club so fast that you never have had the opportunity to know who we are. Hell, when I joined, I barely had any idea how to do anything. But that’s what made me stick with this place. So, just slow down and think before you do anything else on these forums. Please.
TL;DR Stop. You’re making yourself look like an idiot. Slow down.
Please, enough with this thread. @Riven, would you be so kind as to snip it at an appropriate point and move it to the place where archives go to die.
Cas