I think you’ve cracked it!
[quote]So what are ‘real’ circles? I assume you mean circles not created by circle makers?
If you want to tell the difference between ‘fake’ ones and ‘real’ ones, you actually have to be sure that there are in fact ‘real’ ones. AFAIK, nobody has witnessed ‘real’ ones being created. A number of them might be unexplained, but that doesn’t mean they’re ‘real’.
And if you know that there are in fact real ones, you have to know how they are created. But nobody ever saw a ‘real’ one being created, so how do you tell the difference?
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Why? I don’t recall that anyone knows how to create a gravitation. Does it mean I should ignore gravitation?
I mentioned medieval ages. No circle makers here, because crops were important as food. Guess what would happen to a medieval circle maker.
It’s kinda ugly that medieval references are better for studying “crop” circles, than current appearance.
[quote]Maybe ‘real’ ones are created by aliens, using poles and strings ;D
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Eek pervert he accuses aliens of doing manual work, not even some people on the Earth are so low. How could you?
[quote]Why? I don’t recall that anyone knows how to create a gravitation. Does it mean I should ignore gravitation?
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Ummm, I fail to see how this relates to crop circles :
[quote]I mentioned medieval ages. No circle makers here, because crops were important as food. Guess what would happen to a medieval circle maker.
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I don’t know if there were no circle makers there. Crops are still important as food, aren’t they? Even though medieval circle makers might get the most horrible punishment if they would be cought, that doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Even today in some countries, for example pot smokers run the risk of terrible punishment, but they still do it. And I suppose in the medieval ages, you would have even less chance to get cought making crop circles.
With weird phenomenons like this I believe the safest bet is probably the most obvious solution. I suppose that also back then, making crop circles would be a kinda fun thing to do for some people.
There is motivation to grow drugs, even if you don’t want to sell them… saying there was no reason to have a crop circle (man made) in the dark ages is kind of crazy, as important as food crops are, power is every bit as important and people were very superstitious (because well, they didn’t know much). Crop circles would likely be used for control, through fear, possibly to give more power to the local church, or maybe to make an enemy wary of using crops… or of course as a practical joke…
Before this thread goes even more off-the-wall, does anyone actually have a link about these Medieval crop circles? ;D
Edit: At least semi-reputable sources, please!
I had photographs of medieval circle makers on my old TRS 1100-ad harddrive. But those darn circle makers removed the drive and used it to stomp some wheat into a triangle in an effort to prove that they were not the circle makers. ;D
Re erikd
Burned? Killed by stake moving thought theirs rectum up? Hanged? Are you sure they would risk it?
Marijuana is much better than alcohol or nicotine. If my granny would smoke it she wouldn’t be addicted to something worse.
BTW marijuana works nice against anorexia and chronic pains. (For example stomach after surgery, or your back.) Marijuana works nicely against stress, so less murders happen. There weren’t any reports about significant health problems caused by long time using Marijuana. So basically when they were unsuccessful with alcohol, in time of prohibition, they are trying it with another drugs some somewhat harmful, some harmless (or at least in comparison with alternatives.)
So back on topic
I think circle makers are rather new things. Something like alligators in the city severs.
Re cfmdobbie
I hope you can read Latin. If not you have a problem. Library might be the answer, actually big library.
Most of those ‘punishments’ never actually took place in medieval times. All those wonderful looking spiky contraptions were invented by the Victorians (riding high on a diet of Mary Shelley, Edgar Allan Poe etc. as well as being keen on the old cast-iron), and a few by the Spanish Inquisition (spike up the bum ones) and their use was largelly confined to continental Europe and on the Jews or heretics.
Most medieval law was meted out via fines or penances, but this doesn’t make exciting history, sorry.
Randi had some Crop Circle stuff in the last issue of Swift
http://www.randi.org/jr/100104court.html#5
[quote]Burned? Killed by stake moving thought theirs rectum up? Hanged? Are you sure they would risk it?
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In fact I’m sure of it. If nobody would risk those punishments, they wouldn’t exist.
[quote]Marijuana is much better than alcohol or nicotine.
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It all depends on the (ab-)user. Marijuana can be much worse than both alcohol and nicotine combined if it’s abused or if it doesn’t work well for you. A well known fact for example is that THC can make people psychotic and it that can ruin short-term memory.