Christian Gaming

[quote]Well, actually… I don’t really care :slight_smile:
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Then we probably shouldn’t be arguing this at all. While Y’s post was inflammatory in nature, I generally trust members of this board to ignore flame-bait and instead focus on whatever real and relevant issue is at hand. In this case, that issue is Christian gaming and lack of a developed market. :slight_smile:

[quote]Even if it’s out of context… it doesn’t really matter. The bible isn’t kid save.
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The Bible can definitely get quite violent in certain areas, but it’s difficult to say whether it’s “kid safe” or not. There used to be a couple of fellows named the Brothers Grimm who told stories to children that were far less encouraging than those of the Bible. :slight_smile:

But who said we had to target young children anyway? Here’s a few game ideas and the age groups they could potentially reach:

Larry Boy and the Attack of the Giant Fib (Ages 3 and up):

Evil aliens have arrived in Bumblyburg, and are feeding off of fibs told by people! Use your super-suction-cup ears to dispatch the evil aliens in this platform adventure game!

You’ll travel all over Bumblyburg doing battle with ever growing fibs, collecting pieces of scripture along the way! Modes include Larry on foot, driving the Larry-mobile, and doing battle in the Larry-jet! Only you can save Bumblyburg from this horrible menace!

Where in Biblical Time is [Character] (Ages 10 and up):

I’m still thinking about why you would be chasing someone through Biblical time, but I’m sure that I could come up with something if I think about it enough.

The premise is similar to the popular game “Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?” You are trying to track down someone who is using a time machine to visit events mentioned in the Bible. You’re given a limited amount of time before you’re forced to call off the chase. At each correct stop, you witness a Biblical event take place before questioning local witnesses if they’ve seen your prey. Clues given on where to go will be details about the event such as “He mentioned something about lapping up water like a dog”, “I think he mentioned a Joseph” (Tricky clue, because is it the Joseph of the Old Testament or New?), and “He mentioned that a king recently used a sword to settle a dispute between two mothers” (hint: Solomon’s wisdom).

Use your online and included Bibles to decipher the clues and track down your prey!

The Last War (Ages 14 and up):

A first person shooter similar in style to Elite Force 2. You are a military soldier who’s world is turned upside down when a large chunk of the population suddenly goes missing. In the early missions you are sent to clean up rioting, but things quickly take a turn for the worse as tensions heat up between the countries. With governments in disarray, you are quickly called to infiltrate enemy strongholds and stop them from launching nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, some nukes do get launched, and the world is thrown into even more chaos.

At the darkest hour, a new leader rises to bring peace to world and stop the fighting. While his initial plans seem sane enough, you find yourself on missions to suppress a growing rebel movement. During these missions, captured “terrorists” warn you of a the new leader’s plans before they are executed. Soon, the new leader suggests that everyone should be microchipped as a safety precaution. Anyone who isn’t microchipped will be unable to purchase goods, thus forcing the rebels to either starve or submit to government tracking. Heeding the warnings of the rebels, you delay the implant. Soon you realize that people you knew are no longer directly controlling themselves. These chips are controlling people.

You join the resistance and find yourself on a collision course with this new leader and the ultimate war that will soon take place…

Armageddon

[quote]I don’t like religion, because it has done way too much harm
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So has feudalism, communism, nazism, and thousands of other “ideals” that have little or nothing to do with religion. People who hurt others tend to care very little for who’s flag they fly under.

[quote]and almost nothing good has come from it.
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That is a provably false statement. As are several statements made by swpalmer. But I’m not going to argue them here. This is a gaming forum, and the only subject worthy of discussion on this topic is that the Christian gaming market exists and is relatively untapped. If you have an issue with this market, then you probably want to ignore this thread.

This is off topic, but more on topic then most of this thread…

What did you think of Elite Force 2? Did you play the multiplayer at all? I made two of the mulitplayer maps for the 1.1 patch from Activision, ctf_Vor2 (Romulan Playground) and ctf_Exigent. It’s my little claim to fame in the gaming world.

In another life I was a pretty respected mapper/modder for EF1/Quake 3 and Jedi Knight II. Activision contacted and then contracted myself, another mapper (James Nukem) and two mappers from Raven (both guys working on Quake 4 for ID) to try to breath life back into EF2 multiplayer. Unfortunetly though Ritual messed up the Q3 multiplayer code so badly we were only able to rejuvinate it for a short time. Everyone loved the maps, but that didn’t make the gameplay better. Activision had people working on the code for weeks trying to fix it, but it was to far gone from the original Q3 networking and physics. The game play was just to borked.

Raven should have done EF2, not Ritual, but they wanted to work on Jedi Knight 2 instead. Raven did a great job on EF1.

I will credit Ritual with making the single player version of EF2 nice though.

A recent gift to my children has been the Playmobile’s large “Noah’s Ark” and they love to play with it. It comes with a small booklet about the story and it’s presented quite accurately.
I’m sure something similar will be done for video games one day. It’s just that video games are relatively young and we need some time to invent better concepts. Basically most of today’s games are just different forms of old video game concepts.

This Noah’s Ark is a nice toy not only for Christian and Jewish people.
Many of the people disliking “the Bible” tend to forget that the Christian Bible actually contains two totally different books: the Old Testament and the New Testament. Although they are tied by miraculous strings the New Testament is the dominating one for Christians, because it contains the words of the Lord Jesus Christus. (Also don’t forget His anti-thesis: “It’s been told to you [by the Old Testament] AB but I tell you CD…”)
If somebody wants to flame the Old Testament I think he should address his concerns to the Christian and Jewish scholarly people, and not forget that the latter ones know the Old Testament some thousands year longer than any Christian.
(Naturally it’s simpler to bash Christians because of the New Testaments’ saying about the two cheeks, in contrast to the Old Testament’s “an eye for an eye”.)

So… back on topic: A Christian game, like the topic suggests, could well handle some stories from the New Testament.

Hmmm, Christion Gaming, the Flanders would certainly love that :slight_smile:

The Last War sounds like so many other FPS out their. Is that want you want for religious gaming, with religion forced into it?

Mike (mostly pagen, but has no problem with Christian games if they pay the bills)

[quote]This Noah’s Ark is a nice toy not only for Christian and Jewish people.
Many of the people disliking “the Bible” tend to forget that the Christian Bible actually contains two totally different books: the Old Testament and the New Testament. Although they are tied by miraculous strings the New Testament is the dominating one for Christians, because it contains the words of the Lord Jesus Christus.
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It’s true. There probably is a market for Jewish games as well as Christian. If a developer limits himself to the Old Testament, then he can easily target both Christian and Jewish players. Christianity tends to be mentioned more often because the US has traditionally been predominantly Christian. :slight_smile:

[quote]The Last War sounds like so many other FPS out their. Is that want you want for religious gaming, with religion forced into it?
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Well, religion isn’t really “forced” into the concept I presented. I’m sure you’re aware of the best selling series “Left Behind”? The plot I gave is somewhat similar to that series, which itself is based off of the later books of the New Testament (Revelations in particular). I chose the EF2 style game-play because I liked the way EF2 handled the story line. Obviously, EF2 owed a great debt to EF1, but it did expand on the single player story (albeit at the expense of multiplayer gaming). Such a game would offer action, adventure, and intrigue. All the elements that help make today’s games successful. And (depending on how good the writers are) the game could explore the character’s moral dilemmas with the world as it is, and learn more and more about the prophecies regarding the tribulation. The game character would then have to choose if he wants to be an instrument in bringing about the Millennium.

The only down-side is that Biblical scholars disagree strongly about the exact sequence of events described in Revelations. Some think the Rapture will occur and it will be a very dark time, others think that the Rapture is nonsense and that it will simply be a time of testing for Christians. There’s really no way to please both camps, but I know I’m not certainly not going with the pastors who complain that we should use Windows because MacOS is based on “Darwin” which has the platypus character “Hexy”. ::slight_smile: Those guys really need a good lesson in how Principalities and Powers work, as well as the whole “The devil will come as an angel of light bit.” :slight_smile:

Quick Moses part the Red Sea to save your people! Add these 20 fractions before time runs out!!

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Heck I’d even have had fun with that in 3rd grade hehe.

OOo and for the older crowds…

Quick Moses part the Red Sea to save your people! Find the plane tangent to the surface of the peak of each of the incoming waves to build a magic wall and push them back!

mmmm Calculus… :slight_smile:

Anybody got a link to the image of the Fast Action Moses with Kung Fu Grip?

There is nothing inherently religious in the concept as stated in the original post.
However as explained in the post quoted, I accept that that religion would play an integral part of the story, and so retract “forced” :slight_smile:

[quote]I’m sure you’re aware of the best selling series “Left Behind”?
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Alas not, and my current reading list is too dam long as it is. :slight_smile:

You all think you’re so smart, putting down christian games…well DAMN YOU TO HELL YOU BASTARDS! Puttin’ down stuff gets you nowhere. Be open-minded & stop insultin’ Y & Y2. Your words are hurtful, so get a life you screw ups and bastards! I oughta kick your ass for the crap you’re givin’ these guys. Just go bitch yourselves and shut the hell up!

That was helpful.

Aren’t trolls usually a bit more subtle?
Like if I said “Like princec” now. That would be a good troll.

Not really a troll, more a very lazy crapflooder, with only three posts.

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